Disaggregation was their development watchword but still a misstep IMO.
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Intel Core Ultra 9 285k 'Arrow Lake' Discussion/News ("15th gen") on LGA-1851
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Disaggregation was their development watchword but still a misstep IMO.
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/strokes £230 s/h 7800X3D.... 
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Prob tested on 23H2 too
Nothing is DOA until you see the price, what if it's like $200 cheaper than the 9950x
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Well first of all, what is the +28% game?
And I do really welcome a return to sane(r) power usage, but with these numbers and the cost of TSMC N3B I can't see this helping Intel much
For tuners and fiddlers, ARL plus top end CADIMM might be interesting - even if probably poor value.
And I do really welcome a return to sane(r) power usage, but with these numbers and the cost of TSMC N3B I can't see this helping Intel much
For tuners and fiddlers, ARL plus top end CADIMM might be interesting - even if probably poor value.
I think it's Rainbow Six Siege which is very old and might be using APO
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It’s def won’t be priced cheap given the nose costs.
Also, still makes it poor for gaming.
Seems we have another 11th gen situation here
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Intel admits Core Ultra 9 285K will be slower than i9-14900K in gaming - VideoCardz.com
Intel admits their Core Ultra 9 285K will be slower for gamers, but it will need less power Chinese outlets are leaking Intel’s presentation of Core Ultra 200S series. A comparison between Intel’s own Core i9-14900K and the competing AMD Ryzen 9 series has been leaked. The slides in this...
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11th Gen urrgh, what a complete turd that was. Glad I didn't go anywhere near it!!!
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Are Intel so amateur now that they have to be congratulated on something that AMD achieved 5 years ago? Go back that long and Intel were considered the best semiconductor company in the world. Nowadays their fabs are deadweight and their designs are barely faster than AMD despite a big node advantage.
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I have to admit, its disappointing............
I was holding out to go next Gen,
But may end up going with a 14900KF now.
I was holding out to go next Gen,
But may end up going with a 14900KF now.
Intel have plenty of experience and know-how on chiplets, etc. - they glued two dies together on the Q6600, etc. heh, instead they've largely banked that rather than put it to use so as to drip-feed consumers and more lately focussed more on the tiles approach.
At least it worked
Ugh, really? They must have seen the awesome sales of Zen 5 and thought "me, me!".
At least it worked
I can't remember which but one of the 11th gen CPUs had high failure rates, relative to normal.
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6700K for life 
As long as it doesn't die on me I'm pretty happy about my 14700K purchase so far.
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Same. 14700k is a great chip.
Times change. No king rules forever etc etc.
AMD had a great few years with Jim Keller's designs for Zen. He left plans for the next few iterations of Zen, which now appear to be fizzling out. Zen4 - Zen5 has been pretty disappointing - were it not for 3Dcache on the X3D parts, AMD would already be in trouble with Arrow Lake.
I imagine Intel will reach parity with AMD with their next gen after Arrow Lake and then probably succeed them - as now the process gap has been eliminated. Intel just need to work on optimising the chiplet design and possibly adding their own version of 3D Cache, as games just love that huge L3.
Either way, as I've mentioned a few times on this forum, it's my belief that Zen5 X3D (9800X3D & 9950X3D) will be the gaming performance flagships for at least 2 years from now.
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I might have it wrong as I wasn't paying much attention but IIRC Zen 5 isn't an evolution of Zen 4, that will be Zen 6, Zen 5 I believe is more an evolution of Zen 3 (which in many was has ended up reinventing the Zen 4 wheel).
Which probably somewhat explains why the latency was messed up on release :s
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