We'd usually have seen engineering sample leaks of the CPU's and motherboards by now. So far we've seen no ES for desktop CPU's, or motherboards. Something feels off, I think September is highly unlikely. Q1 2025 more likely IMO!
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Intel Core Ultra 9 285k 'Arrow Lake' Discussion/News ("15th gen") on LGA-1851
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We'd usually have seen engineering sample leaks of the CPU's and motherboards by now. So far we've seen no ES for desktop CPU's, or motherboards. Something feels off, I think September is highly unlikely. Q1 2025 more likely IMO!
Yeap, HT is gone. All leaks showed this for over a year.
It looks like Arrow Lake maybe attempting to tame Intel's ludricious TDP's by reducing the clock rate considerably
Intel is abandoning high clock speeds on new CPUs, according to leak
The forthcoming Intel Core 9 Ultra 285K Arrow Lake processor will reportedly have a much lower clock frequency than the Core i9 14900K.www.pcgamesn.com
If that is the case it will be interesting to see what IPC uplift Intel has achieved with the new process node and if it can remain performance competitive with AMD's Zen 5 offerings.
I expect Arrow Lake to be inferior to Raptor Lake for lightly threaded applications (games etc), as clocks/power consumption will be so much lower. Also Intel's first desktop chiplet design, so unlikely to hit a home run their first time.
LGA-1851 motherboards shown so far (mid range boards) appear to have quite beefy VRM cooling. This suggests Arrow Lake will continue the theme of Intel CPU's drawing 200-300W+... Hopefully it's just a case of motherboard manufacturers using up left excess inventory from the power hungry LGA-1700 boards...
Might be Intel's official TDP being lower (perhaps 110W) but in reality the PL2 being 250W or so
Pity it couldn't have a Bloomfield vibe. My i7 920 with triple channel DDR3 was an absolute beast on launch day, so ahead of it's time. Had great overclocking headroom also - mine ran at 3.8Ghz all of it's long life.
Intel 800-series platform for Arrow Lake-S LGA-1851 CPUs leaks in a new diagram - VideoCardz.com
Intel LGA-1851 platform diagram leaked Intel is hosting a series of events for distributors and board partners to showcase and discuss their upcoming LGA-1851 platform. These events are part of the preparations for the launch of Intel’s 800-series motherboards, such as the Z890, which were...
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Z890 leaked
No DDR4 support (previously known)
16x PCI-E Gen 5 lanes from CPU to PCI-E slots (for GPU)
4X PCI-E Gen 5 lanes from CPU (for SSD)
4X PCI-E Gen 4 lanes from CPU (for SSD)
Native Wi-Fi 7
Native Thunderbolt 4
Solid upgrade for Z890 over Z690/Z790 - though would have been nice to see the chipset x8 DMI 4.0 link upgraded to DMI 5.0.
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Random arrow lake chip benched, 20% faster than 14900ks in single core and multicore around same as 13700k
This chip could be a 15600k or something
Alleged Intel Arrow Lake Desktop CPU Performance Leaks Out, 20% Faster Single-Thread Versus 14900KS
An Intel Arrow Lake Desktop CPU performance benchmark has been leaked which shows up to 20% faster single-thread uplift versus 14900KS.wccftech.com
GG if true. This is Intel's first chipset attempt on desktop CPU's, I expected it to be inferior in every way to Zen5.
+1, my forum experience is much more pleasant with just a couple on the ignore list.
Skylake release quickly made Haswell E obsolete though - as Skylake's IPC was noticeably higher and clocked higher thanks to a better process. Think it was less than a year that Haswell-E had the spotlight.
What’s your point, new stuff is better? X99 was a great platform, could even drop a 18 core Xeon in. I used it 7 days a week for > 7 years. P.S: Skylake sucked
My point was pretty obvious, X99 was quickly eclipsed for gamers and those using productivity workloads that were lightly threaded, as Skylake had better clocks and IPC. Pretty average/sub standard platform to be eclipsed so quickly after release IMO.
Intel Core Ultra 9 285K rumored to boost up to 5.7 GHz - VideoCardz.com
Flagship Core Ultra 9 SKU with 5.7 GHz boost A rumor shared by OneRaichu suggests clocks will be lower on next-gen desktop CPU series. The Intel Core Ultra 9 285K is currently known as the fastest upcoming Arrow Lake-S processor. The series is said to make use of Lion Cove Performance Cores and...
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5.7Ghz one core boost and 5.4Ghz all core boost on a new process (Intel 20A?) is much more conservative compared to the 6.2Ghz nonsense of 14900KS's. Far more likely to be a cooler running and stable chip - though I wouldn't put it past Intel to make a mistake, based on recent failures
Rocket Lake increased clocks significantly from Cometlake (10th gen).
Yeah I don't think Intel were happy or comfortable pushing Raptor Lake to such high clocks. They were forced to, due to Zen4's performance, especially the X3D chips.
I think the 13900K should have been the highest stock frequency used for Intel 7 process, perhaps with 100Mhz less top boost and all core.
Intel says Raptor Lake microcode update will not affect overclocking and performance, new Arrow Lake/Battlemage updates - VideoCardz.com
Intel makes several claims at ASUS event in China Updates for Raptor Lake, Arrow Lake and Battlemage. Source: 小敌鸽/Weibo “小敌鸽” aka Little Pigeon is a Chinese tech blogger who has shared some first-hand information in the past. This person was invited to Intel x ASUS event (said to be an internal...
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Leaks suggesting 100W less multi-core load. Assuming there's a performance increase as well, that will be decent. Will still put Intel ahead of AMD in terms of power consumption though - as will be ~ 220W load instead of the ~320w we see now (under worst case all core loads scenario).
Intel Arrow Lake & Panther Lake Power Ratings Revealed: Top Desktop SKU Has 295W PL2, Canceled 40-Core Die Had 352W PL2 & 667W PL4 TDP
Power ratings of Intel's next-generation Arrow Lake & Panther Lake CPUs for desktop and laptops have been revealed by Jaykihn.
Intel Postpones Innovation 2024 Event to 2025, No Word on Arrow Lake Launch
Intel announced that it has postponed the 2024 edition of its Innovation event to 2025. Among other things, the first-party event showcases innovations from the company's various business units made in the preceding year, includes a few key product launches, and teasers for what's next. The...www.techpowerup.com
Zen5X3D is likely to be far superior to Arrow Lake in terms of performance and efficiency, so this delay bothers me little!
Perhaps Intel are waiting for X3D launch before showing their cards.
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Intel Core Ultra 9 24-core “Arrow Lake-S” QS CPU reportedly hits 5.7 GHz clock, 5.4 GHz with all P-cores
Intel Core Ultra 9 24-core "Arrow Lake-S" QS CPU reportedly hits 5.7 GHz clock, 5.4 GHz with all P-cores - VideoCardz.com
24-core Arrow Lake-S up to 5.7 GHz Jaykihn claims that the Qualification Sample (QS) can reach 1.0 GHz higher clock than ES2. Intel has already provided Qualification Samples (QS) of its upcoming Core Ultra 200K series to partners, and some of these units have surfaced in benchmarks like...
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Pretty impressive clocks for a new process & on Intel's first desktop chiplet CPU. Assuming the ~100W multi-core load reduction in power is correct and assuming this thing is stable, it could be promising.
Looking very promising, if it's really 100W less all core MT load power than the 14900k!Intel Core Ultra 9 285K, the flagship Arrow Lake-CPU spotted on Geekbench with 5.7 GHz clock - VideoCardz.com
Core Ultra 9 285K finally on Geekbench The next-gen desktop flagship is almost here. Intel is expected to unveil its new desktop series in a few weeks. The development process is advanced, and most board partners already have access to nearly final silicon known as Qualification Samples. These...
Beating the 9950X in MT performance without having Hyper-Threading is pretty wild.
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I'd use a workstation/server, and RDP into it from your laptop.