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Intel Core Ultra 9 285k 'Arrow Lake' Discussion/News ("15th gen") on LGA-1851


Terrible CPU! Slower than 14900K in games. Very boring, will get trashed by Zen5X3D and absolutely worth ignoring considering it's a one CPU socket.

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Rarely is one release up

Doesn't look like at the tier and price point there is really any overall progress and no real significant improvements to make up for in some cases more significant drops back - often there is at least overall progress even if not much.
 
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Terrible CPU! Slower than 14900K in games. Very boring, will get trashed by Zen5X3D and absolutely worth ignoring considering it's a one CPU socket.
Gaming performance is not everything.. honestly!

This gen is all about power consumption. (Still all very mysterious how GPU power consumption was barely a thing when it was RDNA2 Vs Ampere!)

Still looking forward to the reviews and user's tuning just because while I'm not in the market there will be some non-boring things to find out.

Of course, there is no such thing as a bad product just a bad price. On TSMC N3P Intel are unlikely to start a price war and motherboard prices initially make that pointless, so we still see.
 
I still dunno what the point of 1080p ultra benchmarks are - either 1080p low to bench the CPU or higher res ultra to benchmark the GPU and/or show the significance of the CPU at the kind of resolutions and settings people will be playing at... I'd imagine most people aren't buying a 285K to pair up with a RTX4060...
 
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I still dunno what the point of 1080p ultra benchmarks are - either 1080p low to bench the CPU or higher res ultra to benchmark the GPU and/or show the significance of the CPU at the kind of resolutions and settings people will be playing at... I'd imagine most people aren't buying a 285K to pair up with a RTX4060...
Otherwise what would be the point of gaming benchmarks , if it's mainly GPU involvement

I know what you mean higher resolution more GPU involvement but this is CPU test
 
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Getting Rocket Lake vibes from this

Compared to 14th gen power consumption has imporved, yes. But its not impressive next to Zen 5

Given it has come at the expense of lopping off HT units, etc. I can't say the power consumption improvements are very impressive, unless things look very different in proper reviews IMO Intel has badly misstepped here.
 
Gaming performance is not everything.. honestly!

This gen is all about power consumption. (Still all very mysterious how GPU power consumption was barely a thing when it was RDNA2 Vs Ampere!)

Still looking forward to the reviews and user's tuning just because while I'm not in the market there will be some non-boring things to find out.

Of course, there is no such thing as a bad product just a bad price. On TSMC N3P Intel are unlikely to start a price war and motherboard prices initially make that pointless, so we still see.

Let's see what the gaming efficiency is because gaming wise against AMD its looking really poor
 
Gaming performance is not everything.. honestly!

This gen is all about power consumption. (Still all very mysterious how GPU power consumption was barely a thing when it was RDNA2 Vs Ampere!)

Still looking forward to the reviews and user's tuning just because while I'm not in the market there will be some non-boring things to find out.

Of course, there is no such thing as a bad product just a bad price. On TSMC N3P Intel are unlikely to start a price war and motherboard prices initially make that pointless, so we still see.

How interlinked are Lunar Lake and Arrow Lake? Lunar Lake is all about efficiency in the laptop space and has been very well received, particularly because the iGPU is much improved. I can literally play some games at 1080p 60fps on a TDP of 17w.

What I mean is, did Intel going for efficiency on Luna Lake mean that as a by-product of that focus, we ended up with Arrow lake being a more efficient CPU rather than a super fast one?

Or are they developed completely seperately?
 
Otherwise what would be the point of gaming benchmarks , if it's mainly GPU involvement

I know what you mean higher resolution more GPU involvement but this is CPU test

I'm talking about two aspects there - the use of ultra settings at 1080p which moves some of the load from being a CPU benchmark compared to 1080p low settings and that you need to look at the whole story as well - people mostly aren't buying say a 4090 to play at 1080p low unless they are say "professional" gamers trying to do like 360FPS/Hz for competitive gaming.
 
How interlinked are Lunar Lake and Arrow Lake? Lunar Lake is all about efficiency in the laptop space and has been very well received, particularly because the iGPU is much improved. I can literally play some games at 1080p 60fps on a TDP of 17w.

What I mean is, did Intel going for efficiency on Luna Lake mean that as a by-product of that focus, we ended up with Arrow lake being a more efficient CPU rather than a super fast one?

Or are they developed completely seperately?

New lake = old lake - hyper threading.
 
I'm talking about two aspects there - the use of ultra settings at 1080p which moves some of the load from being a CPU benchmark compared to 1080p low settings and that you need to look at the whole story as well - people mostly aren't buying say a 4090 to play at 1080p low unless they are say "professional" gamers trying to do like 360FPS/Hz for competitive gaming.

They are trying to take away as much GPU bottleneck as possible even if it's 1080p low or ultra still gives you an idea of CPU getting that extra performance from CPU to CPU

Yes I get it no one's gonna be using 4090 at 1080p and higher the resolution more closer it will be with GPU more involved but this is CPU testing

5090 at 1440p probably will show CPU difference more depending on game
 
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Oof, should other reviews find the same performance that's bloody poor for gamers, zero reason to consider Intel over AM5 in that use case. I wonder how efficiency will look, the performance loss should be outweighed by the reduction.

A very forgettable CPU generation unless 9000X3D pulls something out of the bag.
 
Would take this review with a huge grain of salt ... I've seen R23 scores in the 42k to 46k range Here yet above its only scored 40k and the KS they tested would be at unlocked PL to get 42k . While i am more than happy on my 14KS i don't believe this new CPU will be as bad is it is in that review which has apparently been removed as it contains wrong information anyway( pretty easy to tell tbh )
 
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