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Intel Core Ultra 9 285k 'Arrow Lake' Discussion/News ("15th gen") on LGA-1851
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Soldato
take it still ni leaked benchies amd is looking good with the 7800x3d good to see .
No leaked benchmarks of Arrow Lake so far - though expect it to be superior to 7800x3d. It's competition will be Zen5, which is also due out this year.
The mobile version of Arrow Lake, called Lunar Lake, has had some benchmarks supposedly leaked and it's looking very good.
Lunar Lake is showing 50% higher performance per watt compared to Meteor Lake. if it's the same for desktop, Arrow Lake will be a beast
What makes it even more impressive is the benchmark was CB R23 which is a multithreaded test and the leaker says the CPU has no hyperthreading, Meteor Lake has HT but Lunar Lake does not, and still it beats Meteor Lake by 50% with fewer total threads, thanks to Lunar Lake having a new P and E core architecture which must have a big IPC uplift
Lunar Lake is showing 50% higher performance per watt compared to Meteor Lake. if it's the same for desktop, Arrow Lake will be a beast
What makes it even more impressive is the benchmark was CB R23 which is a multithreaded test and the leaker says the CPU has no hyperthreading, Meteor Lake has HT but Lunar Lake does not, and still it beats Meteor Lake by 50% with fewer total threads, thanks to Lunar Lake having a new P and E core architecture which must have a big IPC uplift
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Caporegime
No one knows what any of this means because there are too many lakes.
Caporegime
All they have to do next is remove e cores and they've gone and done a full AMD Ryzen with physical cores, no hyperthreading and a large cache.
AMD Ryzen has multi threading and a larger cache though.
All that matters is performance at the end of the day, not who has the most cores, cache or highest frequency.
I still think it's a tall ask for Arrow Lake to beat Raptor Lake (or Raptor Lake refresh) in games - as frequency is king here and the new process will not be clocking at 6.2 Ghz.
That said, Arrow Lake will be a huge improvement in power efficiency for Intel, possibly matching or beating Zen5.
Caporegime
If it doesn't beat Zen 5 Intel have problems give that its on TSMC 3nm, Zen 5 is on 4nm.
Its like Intel are betting the house on this.
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The large cache is something that's really helped in gaming, some games really take advantage of this. Hoping Intel will follow this route too at some point as its already proven to be effective.
Would be abit of a game changer to be able to do 6ghz at half the power cost, here's dreaming though...
Caporegime
Its not as simple as just increasing the cache size, a larger cache = a larger surface area = higher latency.
AMD's large Cache works because its 3D stacked.
Caporegime
Zen 5 is cheaper to make and it doesn't need a new motherboard to upgrade to.
So if Intel want to take back market share, and not just sell to die hard Intel fans, very few of those left it need's to be more power efficient and faster, because its also going to be more expensive, or needs to be if Intel are going to turn a profit now paying TSMC to use the best tech, and it looks like being much larger.
So if Intel want to take back market share, and not just sell to die hard Intel fans, very few of those left it need's to be more power efficient and faster, because its also going to be more expensive, or needs to be if Intel are going to turn a profit now paying TSMC to use the best tech, and it looks like being much larger.
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What new P and E cores? Seems very likely Intel are going with a continuation of reworking and releasing between AMD’s parts.
Lion Cove P core
Skymont E core
We don't really know much more than their names and that Lion Cove does not have hyerthreading. Leaks have for some time stated Lion Cove was a significant new architecture for Intel aiming 50% higher performance core for core
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You know Intel’s strategy isn’t new but rinse and repeat until 2026-27? Intel have already told us what’s coming.
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Intel Arrow Lake-H processor with 24 cores has reportedly been photographed
Intel Arrow Lake-H processor with 24 cores has reportedly been photographed - VideoCardz.com
Intel Arrow Lake processor for laptops has been pictured The 24-core variant of the upcoming Core Ultra 200 processor series has been shared by Moore’s Law is Dead. Intel is preparing to distribute qualification samples of its Arrow Lake processors to its partners. Although there’s an...
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Very interested to see how this will perform in terms of overall performance, perf per watt and also thermal performance. Roll on leaks!
