Am sure my Z790 motherboard has a CPU reinforced back plate
Some of them have a metal back plate, like the Aorus Master I have, but not the built in reinforced design like X79 boards.
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Intel Core Ultra 9 285k 'Arrow Lake' Discussion/News ("15th gen") on LGA-1851
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Some of them have a metal back plate, like the Aorus Master I have, but not the built in reinforced design like X79 boards.
Am sure my Z790 motherboard has a CPU reinforced back plate
Mostly LGA1700 are reinforced with a metal back plate, that's not the issue.
It's just not flat enough, causing temperature hotspots and of course the bending issues we're seen on some boards.
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Intel Arrow Lake CPUs might not arrive until 2025 – and that could be great news for AMD
Intel Arrow Lake CPUs might not arrive until 2025 – and that could be great news for AMD
We’ve also caught a glimpse of an Arrow Lake laptop chip in a photo
Not surprised, Intel's first chiplet design for desktop CPU's can't be going smoothly. Zen 5 will further humiliate Intel 13th/14th gen offerings and will likely force Intel to massively cut prices to be competitive.
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Intel Arrow Lake CPUs might not arrive until 2025 – and that could be great news for AMD
Intel Arrow Lake CPUs might not arrive until 2025 – and that could be great news for AMD
We’ve also caught a glimpse of an Arrow Lake laptop chip in a photowww.techradar.com
Not surprised, Intel's first chiplet design for desktop CPU's can't be going smoothly. Zen 5 will further humiliate Intel 13th/14th gen offerings and will likely force Intel to massively cut prices to be competitive.
Meh.... click bait articles like this pretending like AMD still needs Intel to no show for people to consider buying them, that has not been true for years, people are buying AMD over Intel for their own merits.
Intel being a no show for a few months after AMD is not going to make much difference to AMD's fortunes, people will buy one of the other primarily for their own merits, people who want an Intel CPU will wait.
Intel Arrow Lake CPUs might not arrive until 2025 – and that could be great news for AMD
Intel Arrow Lake CPUs might not arrive until 2025 – and that could be great news for AMD
We’ve also caught a glimpse of an Arrow Lake laptop chip in a photo
Not surprised, Intel's first chiplet design for desktop CPU's can't be going smoothly. Zen 5 will further humiliate Intel 13th/14th gen offerings and will likely force Intel to massively cut prices to be competitive.
Cites MILD as source... tomorrow he'll probably claim they are going to be released in August.
We'd have seen leaks of z890 motherboards and engineering samples/benchmarks if Arrow Lake was launching Q2 or Q3 IMO. Q4 or next year seems much more likely.
2025 would be very odd given intel is shipping engineering samples already
We've got way more leaks and engineering samples of arrow lake than zen5 and yet arrow lake is now delayed according to MLID?
This is the same guy who Intel killed its GPU division, Intel would not make any more graphics cards and Battlemage would never exist. Yet Battlemage is real and we have engineering samples already
We've got way more leaks and engineering samples of arrow lake than zen5 and yet arrow lake is now delayed according to MLID?
This is the same guy who Intel killed its GPU division, Intel would not make any more graphics cards and Battlemage would never exist. Yet Battlemage is real and we have engineering samples already
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I agree with you about MLID but what he actually said about Battlemage is that it would exist as a mobile part only.
So far what has been leaked are small laptop type GPU's even if they ar also released on Desktop, benchmarks so far have them slower than the A770, there are uploaded Battlemage benchmark results.
I'm saying this because some are talking about RTX 4080 level Battlemage GPU's, there is 0 evidence of anything like that, those are completely made up.
Post the desktop arrow lake engineering sample leaks/benchmarks please, I've not seen any
Chinese vendor appears to be selling Arrow Lake-S engineering samples for $14
Chinese vendor appears to be selling Arrow Lake-S engineering samples for $14
Even if they are real, there are no motherboards with compatible sockets on the market.
If LGA-1851 motherboards were available, I'd buy a ES CPU for $14 and give it a spin
Details of Arrow Lake model numbers
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"Core Ultra 9 290k" - sounds like a toaster Lets hope "290k" is not the PL2 rating
Intel Core Ultra 5 240F "Arrow Lake-S" CPU to use either 8+16 or 6+8 core tiles - VideoCardz.com
Core Ultra 5 240F, expected to use two versions of the Arrow Lake-S silicon A new rumor suggests Intel will continue its ‘tradition’ to mix silicon dies within the mid-range CPU segment. The next-gen Arrow Lake-S series is on track to debut on the desktop platform this year, introducing the...
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"Core Ultra 9 290k" - sounds like a toaster
Lets hope "290k" is not the PL2 rating
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Details of Arrow Lake model numbers
Intel Core Ultra 5 240F "Arrow Lake-S" CPU to use either 8+16 or 6+8 core tiles - VideoCardz.com
Core Ultra 5 240F, expected to use two versions of the Arrow Lake-S silicon A new rumor suggests Intel will continue its ‘tradition’ to mix silicon dies within the mid-range CPU segment. The next-gen Arrow Lake-S series is on track to debut on the desktop platform this year, introducing the...
"Core Ultra 9 290k" - sounds like a toaster
I love how Intel advertise TDP "we are not the ones to make make TDP ratings a completely meaningless number that you can't trust because we want to lie about it just to look better than the competition, we are not that guy, honest"
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Details of Arrow Lake model numbers
Intel Core Ultra 5 240F "Arrow Lake-S" CPU to use either 8+16 or 6+8 core tiles - VideoCardz.com
Core Ultra 5 240F, expected to use two versions of the Arrow Lake-S silicon A new rumor suggests Intel will continue its ‘tradition’ to mix silicon dies within the mid-range CPU segment. The next-gen Arrow Lake-S series is on track to debut on the desktop platform this year, introducing the...
"Core Ultra 9 290k" - sounds like a toaster
Ah so long Hyper Threading, was nice knowing you.
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What would constitute a none core "Ultra" branding by Asus's 12 year old head of marketing.
Nope don't think so, there was a rumour that they were getting rid of Hyper Threading.
First AVX512, now HT too?
Guess this is one way to get E and P cores closer to each other. Any rumours of more hardware schedulers - maybe able move threads to any core at will?
That is very strange. Wonder if it makes various side-channel attacks less likely?
I though SMT/HT was supposed to be such a good and cheap way to keep the pipelines busy?
Timing is strange, especially on the desktop, as it makes little sense. 6th gen Xeons (full fat ones) have HT but it’s gone on the low fat IIRC.
Possibly an attempt to get power use under control, but it seems a little late for that, unless the current P core design is sticking around for longer than planned.
I think the performance impact or lack of windows scheduler support are a big reason Arrow Lake is so delayed. It may not release until Q4, or even 2025!
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