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Intel Core Ultra 9 285k 'Arrow Lake' Discussion/News ("15th gen") on LGA-1851

JollyJamma said:
Does that make it a 14900T or 14950S or some low wattage rework variant of the 14900K?

Seems like a product that could have used a bit longer in the oven to refine it and then use the existing LGA1700 socket so that people are left hugely out of pocket (they did move to DDR5 only so that may not have been possible).

A few reviewers are comparing it to Zen 1 where it wasn’t competitive initially but after a few revisions in the form of Zen 2 and 3, it was great.

That’s probably what we have with ARL.

Me thinks Intel should have launched ARL with a competitor to X3D.

They could have then delayed the launch, refined the BIOS a little better in the extra time and caveated the performance a little bit more convincingly.

Ryzen 9000 launched and everyone basically ignored it, now with some patches and a drop in price occasionally and with X3D coming, it’s looking great.
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Refresh that you need to buy new motherboard not like they are cheap , and might be the only CPU for that socket oh and expensive faster ram
 
Dam what have I done lol I've bought a intel 265k and msi z890 mpg edge and I'm looking forward to it, I have an AMD setup too but will happily tinker with it and not too fussed about FPS losses In gaming with my 4090gpu
 
JollyJamma said:
Reviewing a CPU at 1440P or 4K is when you start to push the load onto the GPU and not the CPU so it’s hard to tell.

It could be multiple factors including memory bandwidth, run to run variance, patched game status etc

I’m sure you know why CPU reviews are done at 720P?
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Of course.
But it seems strange that if it was nowhere near leading at 1080, then it would take the lead at 4k. Unless the really nice motherboard PCI bandwidth starts to influence at the higher resolution.
 
Nutty667 said:
Of course.
But it seems strange that if it was nowhere near leading at 1080, then it would take the lead at 4k. Unless the really nice motherboard PCI bandwidth starts to influence at the higher resolution.
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I can’t imagine PCI-e bandwidth is a factor at all.

Could be any reason based on how many configurations you can have in a PC.

I wouldn’t worry about it and I wouldn’t buy an ARL PC even if it did indicate higher FPS at 4K, I’d just get a 9800X3D which will wipe the floor with Intel at all resolutions
 
pcfarrar said:
Decent gaming performance is possible with overclocking:

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And then efficiency goes out the toilet as well. One of the earlier reviews showed it with the overclock and tuning of all the new settings and performance went up long with 50%+ increase in gaming power draw, that review you linked shows the tuned 285k pulling 190 watts while gaming
 
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uscool said:
surprised the amount that pre order when the product is broken and on the hope it gets better with time ? wouldnt touch anything from day 1 if its not right
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With 12th gen I pre ordered long before official launch (and saved quite a bit of money as prices shot up not long after and stayed that way even a year+ after launch) and that was a gut feeling that everything would be mostly fine, and it was, just Gigabyte took a year to sort out their XMP stability :p

I have not had such a gut feeling ever since and look where we are now with the latest stuff :cry:
 
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uscool said:
surprised the amount that pre order when the product is broken and on the hope it gets better with time ? wouldnt touch anything from day 1 if its not right
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Could it be if pre-orders allowed before NDA's are even lifted/reviews are out, it's a bad sign? Or is this always the case with new CPU's regarding pre-ordering? It was the case this time when both products from AMD and Intel were disappointing on launch day.
 
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DarrenM343 said:
Could it be if pre-orders allowed before NDA's are even lifted/reviews are out, it's a bad good sign? Or is this always the case with new CPU's regarding pre-ordering? It was the case this time when both products from AMD and Intel were disappointing on launch day.
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think the only thing I pre ordered was PC case :p CPU and GPU I would not pre order without seeing reviews and other options thats just me also it feels like you rewarding the company for poor products
 
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