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Intel to launch 6 core Coffee Lake-S CPUs & Z370 chipset 5 October 2017

We were discussing about single core IPC, which Guru3d is testing PROPERLY. All CPUs at same speed, and see how they scale on single core test.
There bound to be 1-2 points difference between various ram speeds, motherboards, and topologies. But that isn't breaking factor, is as basic as it can be.

You post tests that are relative and depending to multiple parameters. Ram speed, CPU speed, motherboard, core count, potential software optimisations even cooling.
With cherry on top, FOUR (4) architectural different system, where performance matters on multi thread multi core benchmarks.
Infinity Fabric (AMD Ryzen - Ram speed), Mesh (SkylakeX - Ram Speed), Ring with speed running at CPU speed (Kabylake/X, Skylake), Ring with speed running at different speed than core (Broadwel-E, Haswel-E - uncore speed).

The Guru 3D ones are quite a bit difference from the ones someone else posted.

I get 161 points at 3.9GHZ however.
 
Guys I believe we disagree for different subjects

I answered to the guy who said "Ryzen has same IPC as Haswel", then most of you are close to call me Intel fanboy and Ryzen CPU overall is better.
Get a grip of the post someone replied to, and the context.
 
Guys I believe we disagree for different subjects

I answered to the guy who said "Ryzen has same IPC as Haswel", then most of you are close to call me Intel fanboy and Ryzen CPU overall is better.
Get a grip of the post someone replied to, and the context.

It actually has less IPC than haswell


This is over a vast range of tests, not just one. By a renowned member of the AMD scene.
 
Ah yeah, i forgot we are still waiting for that magic silver bullet that fixes everything.
Not a magic bullet but as you know ryzen is in its infacy, especially in march.

I don't know what all the bickering is about, nothing being said is much different to what has already been established. Intel has the ultimate performance crown and ryzen has the performance per pound crown.


It's really strange witnessing people argue that you don't need more than four cores, then in the same breath bang on about the 8700k.

Who cares that more money get you slightly better performance some of the time. Buy what ever fit your budget they will both do the job pretty well.
 
Not a magic bullet but as you know ryzen is in its infacy, especially in march.

I don't know what all the bickering is about, nothing being said is much different to what has already been established. Intel has the ultimate performance crown and ryzen has the performance per pound crown.


It's really strange witnessing people argue that you don't need more than four cores, then in the same breath bang on about the 8700k.

Who cares that more money get you slightly better performance some of the time. Buy what ever fit your budget they will both do the job pretty well.

Not sure if that is directed at me but I've been telling people's quads are on the way out for quite some time
 
In this thread: Ryzen owners telling non-Ryzen owners to temper their expectations and stop cherry picking benchmarks that make Ryzen look better than it does. It's hilariously ridiculous.
 
In this thread: Ryzen owners telling non-Ryzen owners to temper their expectations and stop cherry picking benchmarks that make Ryzen look better than it does. It's hilariously ridiculous.
Are you Zornyan in disguise too? Things get blown out proportion intel fanboy acuse amd fanboys of the same nonsense, that is the funny part. It never ends just a vicious circle of the same repeated arguments.
 
But I remember you joining in before you made the announcement to buy a 8700k. I disticltly remember someone calling you a fanboy and you replying that of all people you were not, this was when the argument was about about the 7700k.

Not a personal attack just an observation.
 
You could do a test right now and the difference would be mostly the same. Tomb raider has had its ryzen patch and total war etc and they still lose out. The IPC is below or on par with haswell as shown numerous times.

According to some people it's more. But eitherway all the generation of chips fall within a very tight margin. Around Has well is around Kabylake and very likely around Coffeemaker.
 
To be honest, even I am fed up of reading the repetitive arguments here which are not really going away. At the end of the day, Intel will be faster (in most cases) on a clock for clock basis, can clock higher, and are way more expensive. I doubt that is going to change for the next 9 months.

If someone wants to buy an 8700K or any other Coffee Lake chip, and find out how it is for themselves, then good on them, at least they will have first hand experience of the platform, for its benefits and its drawbacks. The same applies to people who may want to grab an AMD solution to compare.

People bang on about one being better than the other, but they both have benefits, and they both have drawbacks. Neither of them is a catch all solution, for everyone, and for once people actually need to make a choice, which is refreshing. :)
 
But I remember you joining in before you made the announcement to buy a 8700k. I disticltly remember someone calling you a fanboy and you replying that of all people you were not, this was when the argument was about about the 7700k.

Not a personal attack just an observation.

I'm far from a fanboy lol. I'll jump to whatever fits my needs.
 
To be honest, even I am fed up of reading the repetitive arguments here which are not really going away. At the end of the day, Intel will be faster (in most cases) on a clock for clock basis, can clock higher, and are way more expensive. I doubt that is going to change for the next 9 months.

If someone wants to buy an 8700K or any other Coffee Lake chip, and find out how it is for themselves, then good on them, at least they will have first hand experience of the platform, for its benefits and its drawbacks. The same applies to people who may want to grab an AMD solution to compare.

People bang on about one being better than the other, but they both have benefits, and they both have drawbacks. Neither of them is a catch all solution, for everyone, and for once people actually need to make a choice, which is refreshing. :)

I agree, what is winding people up here though is a certain few people talking ryzen up without even owning one. They cherry pick a benchmark and call it done.
All of this in an intel thread :)
 
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