There's a rather large difference between August 2017 and February 2018 though, it's hard to believe such a delay has occurred (particularly given the source). If it really is delayed that long though, they'll have to compete with Zen+ and even if AMD just improve clock speeds by 3-400 MHz and nothing else, that could be very tough for Intel with their current pricing structure.
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Intel to launch 6 core Coffee Lake-S CPUs & Z370 chipset 5 October 2017
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could be true as dont forget the coffee lakes where being brought forward like x299 due to ryzen and look at whats happening to some of the x299 stuff. thats now not due till next year. hopefully we'l get a proper idea come e3 in a few days wtf is actually going on. if not i guess a few of us will be buying ryzens soon.
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Isn't intel sponsoring the PC platform at e3 this year? Hope we hear some real info from Intel themselves at e3
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Maybe the Kaby refresh will be improved due to better binning, and use of solder as the TIM rather than paste, especially in the higher end models. Don't forget they pulled Coffee Lake in from what should have been Q1 '18, so putting it back to Q1' 18 is not a huge surprise.
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Intel are lucky for a couple of reasons. They have the brand image that many companies and individuals recognise and will continue to be bent over by and the fact that AMD didn't get out of the gate particularly gracefully with Ryzen.
They have a couple of years for the former but who knows how long on the latter
They have a couple of years for the former but who knows how long on the latter
thats all intel could do really. a slight bump in base clocks which will make bugger all difference to over clocks. now if it was a updated process and the chips ran a bit cooler and a bump in clocks and lower power requirements all at the same time maybe it could be worth grabbing them but when you look at the updated bios stuff for ryzen and again the extra cores its still a very hard sell to buy kaby lake.
That's generally true for desktops and workstations but temperature and power usage are far more important metrics for laptops and servers of course. It still generally makes more sense to be within the ideal efficiency range for a desktop chip though - an extra <5% performance for 50% higher power usage and a far hotter chip is rather pointless for most.
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The original source is an editor who was at Computex which was where he got the info from, from a slide (non one seems to show?). Source seems legit to me. Now they could have delayed it on purpose to try and get more people on HEDT, but I can only guess here. It needing a new board (sigh) was reason enough for me to pick X299, the better platform out of the two, and now that it has been delayed big time I am happy to have made that decision.
I really find this hard to believe, since there was a picture of a slide at computex meeting showing coffeelake on schedule for release in august.
so there's one person saying the opposite with no proof on wccftech.....doubtful
I completely agree.
I'm only interested in desktop SKUs though
Yeah, 5% performance, but much hotter and more power hungry, I wouldn't bother either.
I assume they've abandoned 'Moore's Law'?
Yeah, I'm also surprised by this.
I saw a fairly genuine looking leak of an intel presentation showing 6 cores for 2H this year.
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You're absolutely right!! See below:
The article is wrong, or rather it's a misunderstanding that's been taken for a spin; nothing changed and we'll still have CFL-S K-Series come August. From the guy who leaked the original Core X series:
"Sweepr: I see there's 'rumors' about Coffee Lake being delayed to 2018 circulating in clickbait websites. The original article from WinFuture.de only provides info about mobile products and a 65W 'S' part (and speculates about the rest), saying Kaby Lake Refresh comes in September, Gemini Lake in late 2017 and Coffee Lake in February. Basically nothing new because it was already known that mobile Coffee Lake was a Q1-2018 product. To clear up any confusion, the only parts launching in August are unlocked 65W/95W 4C/6C desktop models + Z370 chipset, everything else including traditional locked 65W desktop models, mobile variants (U, H), Xeon E3 and new chipsets will only be available next year. This is the latest roadmap from Intel itself pre-Computex:
And here's an article from DigiTimes published today:"
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20170603PD201.html
that slide if im reading it right is when oem's disclosed hence x299 is may, so yeah we may officially get told aug to sep but no actual release date. so for all we know this is just when they where planning on letting us the consumers know officially whats coming.
Just realised that the 7700k came out the start of this year (I've been out of the loop i thought it was last year). Are Intel seriously going to replace it in 6 months? When was coffelake originally meant to come out?
Seems like some guys at intel and motherboard manufactures are about to earn some serious overtime pay.
Seems like some guys at intel and motherboard manufactures are about to earn some serious overtime pay.
Well Coffee Lake wasn't even meant to exist originally. I'm pretty sure once they had decided it'd be necessary they planned it to be a year after Kaby Lake, like most other releases.