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Intel to launch 6 core Coffee Lake-S CPUs & Z370 chipset 5 October 2017

Ok Andrei. Would you like me to get all giddy about Coffee lake and we can all jump up and down like little girls? I'm sorry Im just not that person. I'm really not.

I get you want Coffee lake to be amazballz, but maybe keep your feet on the ground.
 
I have ben following this thread in hopes of guidance for my next upgrade

I need a few things answering if poss

what is the importance of single thread in 2017

z370/z390, well this is confusing, I mean I know z370 is almost here but talk of z390 already, ah...

am4, will it support ryzen 2 or will that be am4+

if I get a new board, chip and ram I would still like a new gfx card and would be selling my older components, so I
have a an intel i7 4790k, gigabyte gaming board, 16gb ddr3 mem and on oc gtx970, would the sale of these
get me somewhere near a gtx 1070 ??

thank you all.
 
z370/z390, well this is confusing, I mean I know z370 is almost here but talk of z390 already, ah...

From what I've seen, it looks like Z370 is just a tweaked Z270, while only Z390 will have the new 300 series features (like built-in Intel Wi-Fi).

There are question marks over future compatibility too, if Z370 will support 8 cores CPUs / Icelake or this will be Z390 only.
 
I've just found that Slovak's biggest computer retailer/etailer has all of the Coffee Lake CPU's listed, with the 8700K coming in at €379, that's including 20% VAT, so £335 here with the current exchange rate, the 8600K works out at £234. I'd imagine that puts them firmly at +£15-20 on top of that, in the UK.
 
There are question marks over future compatibility too, if Z370 will support 8 cores CPUs / Icelake or this will be Z390 only.

There is also a very good chance that Z390 will be the first consumer chipset to support PCI-Express 4.0, which is a big deal if you need bandwidth, or to reduce the number of anes being used for the same bandwidth, a Samsung m.2 960 Pro could run in 2 lanes instead of 4, or a newer controller may allow speeds of 6400MB/s on 4 lanes :o
 
I have ben following this thread in hopes of guidance for my next upgrade

I need a few things answering if poss

what is the importance of single thread in 2017

z370/z390, well this is confusing, I mean I know z370 is almost here but talk of z390 already, ah...

am4, will it support ryzen 2 or will that be am4+

if I get a new board, chip and ram I would still like a new gfx card and would be selling my older components, so I
have a an intel i7 4790k, gigabyte gaming board, 16gb ddr3 mem and on oc gtx970, would the sale of these
get me somewhere near a gtx 1070 ??

thank you all.

Single thread performance is important to a point as is thread count. Not many desktop work loads benefit from 5Ghz dual cores or 20 core 3Ghz CPU's.

Z370 and Z390 is confusing. Z270 and i7 quad cores was the desktop plan until Ryzen spoiled Intel's party. Intel can't compete with a quad core but don't want to canabalise Z270 and Kabylake sales. So it seems the strategy is to tac a pair of cores onto Kabylake call it Coffee lake and release a rehashed Z270 chipset with support for Kaby disabled.

AM4 should support Ryzen 2 although we'll see Ryzen plus first sometime around mid to late 2018.

I'm not sure what you'd get for your system but we have a 1070Ti on the way. Looks lime it should be around the mid 300's and perform pretty close to the 1080.
 
I am pretty damn sure that AMD are working on X470, B450, and X499 chipsets for 2018. Chipsets are not confusing, re-using the same socket can be, especially when not everything is forward compatible/backward compatible. That's why AMD's system is normally simpler, since you can just wack an older CPU in the new board and get the newer board features, like PCI-E 4.0 etc.
 
The graphics card market is all over the place right now but it seems the Vega cars is giving the 1070na hard time and will probably open the gap with every driver.
 
The graphics card market is all over the place right now but it seems the Vega cars is giving the 1070na hard time and will probably open the gap with every driver.

my 2 rx480s seem to have gained a little since release. my gtx970 just seemed to be a beast out of the gate though.
 
I am pretty damn sure that AMD are working on X470, B450, and X499 chipsets for 2018. Chipsets are not confusing, re-using the same socket can be, especially when not everything is forward compatible/backward compatible. That's why AMD's system is normally simpler, since you can just wack an older CPU in the new board and get the newer board features, like PCI-E 4.0 etc.

Don't throw even more confusion into the mix Journey. AMD said at the launch of Ryzen that further Ryzen releases will be "Fully" compatible with current mobo's. The take on that is, once DDR5 is released then we will see changes in chipset and mobo's...................not before.
 
Don't throw even more confusion into the mix Journey. AMD said at the launch of Ryzen that further Ryzen releases will be "Fully" compatible with current mobo's. The take on that is, once DDR5 is released then we will see changes in chipset and mobo's...................not before.

You should read what I wrote again, I didn't say they weren't, I just stated that current Ryzen will be forward compatible, unlike the current scenario for Kaby dropping in to Z370.
 
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