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Intel to launch 6 core Coffee Lake-S CPUs & Z370 chipset 5 October 2017

Simon Belmont said:
Nice. Seems coffeelake will be releasing shortly. X299 had benchmark leaks just like this a month or two before it released.

Bring it :)
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Yeah and we have been seeing several such leaks in the past few weeks. Looks like it'll be on time (good for me!).

We'll start seeing some boards in July I'll bet.

What event is near the end of August where they could possibly show off all this new stuff?
 
TheF34RChannel said:
Yeah and we have been seeing several such leaks in the past few weeks. Looks like it'll be on time (good for me!).

We'll start seeing some boards in July I'll bet.

What event is near the end of August where they could possibly show off all this new stuff?
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Don't know ,but hope they release it regardless. Need me some mainplatform Intel 6 core goodness:D
 
DragonQ said:
If Coffee Lake has 15% better IPC on average (no idea yet, one benchmark is not an indicator of overall IPC) and clocks 15% higher on average (i.e. 4.5 GHz) with decent air cooling, it could have performance over 30% better than the R5 1600. However, remember that the R5 1600 is under £200; the 6c/12t CFL-S chip is certainly going to be much more than 30% more expensive, which means that it still won't be viable for anything but very high budget ranges. A 1080 Ti + R5 1600 is almost certainly still going to be better at gaming than a 1080 + CFL-S, for example.

Personally I do not expect anywhere near a 15% IPC gap between the two. Maybe in terms of average frame rates in older games but we already know Ryzen suffers from lack of optimisation in that scenario.
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The thing is we know there is a B2 stepping of Ryzen being released and if AMD refreshes the range with slightly clockspeed bumped models over the next six months,that advantage is going to shrink.
 
DragonQ said:
If Coffee Lake has 15% better IPC on average (no idea yet, one benchmark is not an indicator of overall IPC) and clocks 15% higher on average (i.e. 4.5 GHz) with decent air cooling, it could have performance over 30% better than the R5 1600. However, remember that the R5 1600 is under £200; the 6c/12t CFL-S chip is certainly going to be much more than 30% more expensive, which means that it still won't be viable for anything but very high budget ranges. A 1080 Ti + R5 1600 is almost certainly still going to be better at gaming than a 1080 + CFL-S, for example.

Personally I do not expect anywhere near a 15% IPC gap between the two. Maybe in terms of average frame rates in older games but we already know Ryzen suffers from lack of optimisation in that scenario.
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Of course in the above it would be viable. Lots of people want the best in a given range/sector of product and so are prepared to pay more. By the above logic, nobody would bother with most high end technology you pay a premium for. Intel are hardly going to offer something better at a fractionally higher cost when they can get away with a disproportionate extra cost on top of a 1600 just because it's the best main stream 6c chip.
 
Drollic said:
By the above logic, nobody would bother with most high end technology you pay a premium for.
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Nobody would, if everybody was well-informed and actually spent a lot of time researching. Understandably, most don't. :p

There are of course use cases where CFL-S would be a good buy, even at £350, but for pure gaming it'll probably only be worth it at the very high end, or maybe if you're playing older games at high FPS using 1080p. Like I said, there aren't going to be that many scenarios where a 1080 + CFL-S is going to be preferable to a 1080 Ti + R5 1600.

Drollic said:
Of course in the above it would be viable. Lots of people want the best in a given range/sector of product and so are prepared to pay more.
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And when you say "lots of people", you mean "almost nobody" in the grand scheme of things.
 
DragonQ said:
And when you say "lots of people", you mean "almost nobody" in the grand scheme of things.
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No, I mean lots of people and a sizeable percentage of the market buying 6c chips. Like I say, you want the best, you pay a premium. It's that simple. Value goes out the window.
 
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Kaby Lake shows a massive advantage over Ryzen in Geekbench which simply doesn't show up in other benchmarks.
 
X-Mikuru_Beam-X said:
I need some hot Covfefe action and soon!!! Come on Intel...
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Guys - Can't be bothered trawling through all this crap...

6C/12T Covfefelake (stock) vs 3930k (stock)

How much % increase am I looking at? I just haven't seen the need to upgrade at all in years but this systems getting old now...
 
illuz said:
Guys - Can't be bothered trawling through all this crap...

6C/12T Covfefelake (stock) vs 3930k (stock)

How much % increase am I looking at? I just haven't seen the need to upgrade at all in years but this systems getting old now...
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It's a not yet released CPU so nobody knows. What we do know is that yours is beginning to show its age and there's also the new platform features to consider. Wait a bit to find the answer to your question. Keep an eye out on this thread.
 
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