Intel to launch 6 core Coffee Lake-S CPUs & Z370 chipset 5 October 2017

DragonQ · 30 May 2017 at 15:50

Journey said:
Yep, I've seen the mention of v2.0 LGA1151, which states that the new CPU's would only work in Z370 etc. Series of boards, and are not backward compatible, probably due to the extra power pins needed for the 6 cores.

Well that'd be incredibly crap but in no way a surprise. I wonder if Icelake will be compatible with LGA 1151 v2 as well or if they realise they need even more power lanes or pins for 8c/16t? So short-sighted and they never get punished for it in terms of sales. Very sad.

I mean, releasing 4 generations of CPU with exactly the same architecture (i.e. no IPC difference) is poor to begin with, but spreading that over more than one socket is shameful.

Simon Belmont · 30 May 2017 at 16:23

Don't care about the chipset change. Just release the chip already

Gerard · 30 May 2017 at 23:41

Just seen a pic on kitguru's twitter showing intel claiming a 30% performance bump going from 7th gen "i series" to 8th gen "i series". Funny how this performance bump just magically materialises when amd are competitive again.

GAC · 30 May 2017 at 23:45

Gerard said:
Just seen a pic on kitguru's twitter showing intel claiming a 30% performance bump going from 7th gen "i series" to 8th gen "i series". Funny how this performance bump just magically materialises when amd are competitive again.

interesting. maybe it will be a harder choice come coffee lake then

Phemo · 31 May 2017 at 00:03

We all know Skylake to Kaby Lake was identical in terms of IPC and other than power efficiency, the only performance difference was that the chips were clocked higher yet this Intel slide claims a 15% performance gain. Although they're now saying greater than 15% for Coffeelake, I think we're unlikely to see any substantial gains on an IPC basis.

Journey · 31 May 2017 at 00:11

If you notice the graphic it states 15% in Sysmark, which means a clock speed bump alone shows this sort of increase.

muon · 31 May 2017 at 00:52

2 additional cores will also do it and that would suggest lower clocks.

DragonQ · 31 May 2017 at 08:48

Gerard said:
Just seen a pic on kitguru's twitter showing intel claiming a 30% performance bump going from 7th gen "i series" to 8th gen "i series". Funny how this performance bump just magically materialises when amd are competitive again.

Pretty crap considering it has 50% more cores.

RavenXXX2 · 31 May 2017 at 09:03

Be interesting to see coffelake 6 core pricing and what and if the i5 8 thread will slot in at current i5 pricing, thing is AMD have 6 core at that pricing already, will Intel compete on pricing....

Simon Belmont · 31 May 2017 at 09:40

Still nothing about coffeelake?

eddiew · 31 May 2017 at 10:28

muon said:
2 additional cores will also do it and that would suggest lower clocks.

That was my thought too... which I'm not against, but personally I've still got cases where 4 fast cores is better than 6 middling ones. I'd prefer to see 30% on actual single-thread performance, but I guess we'll find out what we get in a few months

Ste · 31 May 2017 at 13:26

https://www.pcper.com/news/Processors/Computex-2017-Intel-8th-Gen-Core-Processors-30-Faster-7th-Gen

Looks like the 30% claim on the mobile part is a combination of both increased cores and threads and a clock speed hike. The 15% in the graphic above could be an either/or but my money is on 6c and 4ghz rather than 4.5...

GAC · 31 May 2017 at 19:30

intel really are falling over themselves at the mo it seems, as they are trying to push out x299 as fast as possible and then coffee lake soon after which will probably hit the lower x299 chips performance wise. really hope we get some clearer info come E3 in a couple of weeks about whats happening with coffee lake.

Simon Belmont · 31 May 2017 at 21:18

GAC said:
really hope we get some clearer info come E3 in a couple of weeks about whats happening with coffee lake.

Agree. Hope we hear something shortly?

Cooper · 1 Jun 2017 at 13:55

GAC said:
really hope we get some clearer info come E3 in a couple of weeks about whats happening with coffee lake.

Of course! I completely forgot that Intel are sponsoring this years E3 PC Gaming event, which is the obvious place to (paper?) launch the new consumer gaming oriented Coffee Lake CPU's.

GAC · 1 Jun 2017 at 14:04

Cooper said:
Of course! I completely forgot that Intel are sponsoring this years E3 PC Gaming event, which is the obvious place to (paper?) launch the new consumer gaming oriented Coffee Lake CPU's.

well we are expecting it come august so hopefully it will be more of a demo than a paper launch, just hope they dont try and push the x299 platform as the majority of people wont be able to or need to buy it. or its going to be a streaming twitch fest, aimed at selling the hedt platform to streamers because its rad and cool or some rubbish.

Simon Belmont · 1 Jun 2017 at 14:14

GAC said:
well we are expecting it come august so hopefully it will be more of a demo than a paper launch, just hope they dont try and push the x299 platform as the majority of people wont be able to or need to buy it. or its going to be a streaming twitch fest, aimed at selling the hedt platform to streamers because its rad and cool or some rubbish.

+1

Could care less about x299. I'm only browsing and gaming. Don't need 12 to 16 core for that. Will be nice to have the new 6 core mainstream z370 desktop though. That will last me a few years.

Cooper · 1 Jun 2017 at 14:15

GAC said:
well we are expecting it come august so hopefully it will be more of a demo than a paper launch

So do I, I've had my 4690K for three years now, and whilst it's still fast enough for anything I throw at it, I'm finally feeling the need for more cores

but don't want to take the hit in IPC & overclocking frequencies that I'd have to put up with going to a Ryzen setup.

Going from 4c to 6c 12t will actually feel like a proper, meaty upgrade as well

N19h7m4r3 · 1 Jun 2017 at 14:23

GAC said:
intel really are falling over themselves at the mo it seems, as they are trying to push out x299 as fast as possible and then coffee lake soon after which will probably hit the lower x299 chips performance wise. really hope we get some clearer info come E3 in a couple of weeks about whats happening with coffee lake.

I forgot Coffee Lake is a 6 core. That'll eat into the 4core and 6 core Skylake X processors for sure.

All depends now on IPC and clock speeds, and of course price. Might see something at E3 with Intel hosting the PC Gaming section.

GAC · 1 Jun 2017 at 14:25

yeah a jump in cores will be nice (if they get used) for me its more ipc then anything else and updated mobo stuff. im on a first gen i5 750 dont forget so got a good few years of new tech to come once i get a new mobo and cpu. interesting fact though picked up fallout 4 and its running around 70% cpu usage across all 4 cores give or take which for the age of my cpu is rather nice.