Intel to launch 6 core Coffee Lake-S CPUs & Z370 chipset 5 October 2017

[N19h7m4r3]

yeah a jump in cores will be nice (if they get used) for me its more ipc then anything else and updated mobo stuff. im on a first gen i5 750 dont forget so got a good few years of new tech to come once i get a new mobo and cpu. interesting fact though picked up fallout 4 and its running around 70% cpu usage across all 4 cores give or take which for the age of my cpu is rather nice.

You'll get a massive increase in performance thats for sure; and luckily more games coming out do use more than 4 cores.
So it'll be a great upgrade all round.

If coffee lake was around when I built my system I'd sure as hell forgo the X99 platform premium; and I think for many it'll be the case between x299 as well.

 

[GAC]

You'll get a massive increase in performance thats for sure; and luckily more games coming out do use more than 4 cores.
So it'll be a great upgrade all round.

lets be honest id probably see a nice boost with a i3 kaby lake

 

[N19h7m4r3]

lets be honest id probably see a nice boost with a i3 kaby lake

Too true!

 

[Random Guy Esq.]

Haven't been keeping up to date with this stuff at all.... Are there any new features expected in the Z370 chipset?

 

[DragonQ]

Haven't been keeping up to date with this stuff at all.... Are there any new features expected in the Z370 chipset?

The new feature is that there's a 3 in the name rather than a 2. 3 is higher than 2.

 

[GAC]

Haven't been keeping up to date with this stuff at all.... Are there any new features expected in the Z370 chipset?

im guessing more usb-c and storage options new socket, someone mentioned a v2 1151 or whatever skylake and kabylake run on atm, higher ram support doubt they will go quad as they would just make their high end x299 stuff even more pointless.

 

[Random Guy Esq.]

Cheers!

 

[ussie]

It should be a bigger jump then skylake to kabylake was otherwise I doubt many will buy. We should find out more towards the end on May.

Indeed, those of have skylake or potentially older will see a nice performance increase I guess jumping to z370, however those going from z270 like myself to coffee lake? well that imo would be a waste, In my case especially. I've seemed to have grabbed a golden 7600k, clocked at 5Ghz which I can push further without any issues

 

[GAC]

Indeed, those of have skylake or potentially older will see a nice performance increase I guess jumping to z370, however those going from z270 like myself to coffee lake? well that imo would be a waste, In my case especially. I've seemed to have grabbed a golden 7600k, clocked at 5Ghz which I can push further without any issues

this is what i dont get from a lot of people who cry about price then the lack of performance boost, if its not big enough dont upgrade. intels not forcing people to buy new every generation. hell i dont think iv ever bought one cpu after another generation wise. makes sod all sense unless your swimming in money or so paranoid you need the fastest out there.

 

[Simon Belmont]

I hope we hear about coffeelake soon. Looking to upgrade now. Money's burning a hole as we speaking.

 

[Journey]

I hope we hear about coffeelake soon. Looking to upgrade now. Money's burning a hole as we speaking.

Hope they are fire proof pockets then, since it seems you are looking at Oct/Nov for release now - http://www.techradar.com/news/intel-coffee-lake-release-date-news-and-rumors

 

[Journey]

I find this quote very interesting, for anyone that thinks there will be a big IPC increase, it's not going to happen. They were throwing around numbers, like a 30% increase, and a 15% increase.

"While Intel's big news today is the announcement of its 18-core, 36-thread, high-end desktop X-series processors, the company has revealed one detail for the 8th generation mainstream processors, codenamed Coffee Lake, that are due to be released later this year: the new chips will, at least in some particular circumstances, be 30 percent faster than 7th-gen Kaby Lake parts.

That's a huge generational improvement, but of course, there are footnotes to consider. The 30 percent boost came in one benchmark—SYSmark 2014 version 1.5—and applies to 15W U-series mobile processors. The comparison pits an i7-7500U (2.7GHz base, 3.5GHz turbo) with two cores and four threads against an unnamed next generation chip. The new chip has an unspecified base clockspeed, a 4GHz turbo, and doubles the number of cores and threads to four and eight. The 8th generation chip is built on a refined iteration of Intel's 14nm process."


So it seems that doubling the number or cores and threads, and boosting the turbo speed by 500MHz offers a 30% increase in performance using the synthetic benchmark SYSmark, well no freaking **** Sherlock.
14nm++ Coffee Lake = Kaby Lake = Skylake = waste of time for anyone unless you are on Socket 1150/55 or older, since the only real new tech is going to be the six core offerings, which won't fit in your Z170/Z270 boards by the look of things.

 

[Simon Belmont]

Hope they are fire proof pockets then, since it seems you are looking at Oct/Nov for release now - http://www.techradar.com/news/intel-coffee-lake-release-date-news-and-rumors

lol

After reading article it does say it could still release in Aug. Keeping my fingers crossed we hear more it at E3

 

[Simon Belmont]

I find this quote very interesting, for anyone that thinks there will be a big IPC increase, it's not going to happen. They were throwing around numbers, like a 30% increase, and a 15% increase.

"While Intel's big news today is the announcement of its 18-core, 36-thread, high-end desktop X-series processors, the company has revealed one detail for the 8th generation mainstream processors, codenamed Coffee Lake, that are due to be released later this year: the new chips will, at least in some particular circumstances, be 30 percent faster than 7th-gen Kaby Lake parts.

That's a huge generational improvement, but of course, there are footnotes to consider. The 30 percent boost came in one benchmark—SYSmark 2014 version 1.5—and applies to 15W U-series mobile processors. The comparison pits an i7-7500U (2.7GHz base, 3.5GHz turbo) with two cores and four threads against an unnamed next generation chip. The new chip has an unspecified base clockspeed, a 4GHz turbo, and doubles the number of cores and threads to four and eight. The 8th generation chip is built on a refined iteration of Intel's 14nm process."


So it seems that doubling the number or cores and threads, and boosting the turbo speed by 500MHz offers a 30% increase in performance using the synthetic benchmark SYSmark, well no freaking **** Sherlock.
14nm++ Coffee Lake = Kaby Lake = Skylake = waste of time for anyone unless you are on Socket 1150/55 or older, since the only real new tech is going to be the six core offerings, which won't fit in your Z170/Z270 boards by the look of things.

Hope much better would x299 platform be with a 7800 or 7820x then coffeelake?

 

[gavinh87]

I find this quote very interesting, for anyone that thinks there will be a big IPC increase, it's not going to happen. They were throwing around numbers, like a 30% increase, and a 15% increase.

"While Intel's big news today is the announcement of its 18-core, 36-thread, high-end desktop X-series processors, the company has revealed one detail for the 8th generation mainstream processors, codenamed Coffee Lake, that are due to be released later this year: the new chips will, at least in some particular circumstances, be 30 percent faster than 7th-gen Kaby Lake parts.

That's a huge generational improvement, but of course, there are footnotes to consider. The 30 percent boost came in one benchmark—SYSmark 2014 version 1.5—and applies to 15W U-series mobile processors. The comparison pits an i7-7500U (2.7GHz base, 3.5GHz turbo) with two cores and four threads against an unnamed next generation chip. The new chip has an unspecified base clockspeed, a 4GHz turbo, and doubles the number of cores and threads to four and eight. The 8th generation chip is built on a refined iteration of Intel's 14nm process."


So it seems that doubling the number or cores and threads, and boosting the turbo speed by 500MHz offers a 30% increase in performance using the synthetic benchmark SYSmark, well no freaking **** Sherlock.
14nm++ Coffee Lake = Kaby Lake = Skylake = waste of time for anyone unless you are on Socket 1150/55 or older, since the only real new tech is going to be the six core offerings, which won't fit in your Z170/Z270 boards by the look of things.

Interesting. It looks like people on sky/kaby will be in no rush unless they NEED those extra cores.

 

[Simon Belmont]

Interesting. It looks like people on sky/kaby will be in no rush unless they NEED those extra cores.

I wanted the 6 cores, but if it's going to be later in the year I might look into i9 7800 or 7820x. Just need to know how much better it would then kaby or coffeelake?

 

[gavinh87]

I wanted the 6 cores, but if it's going to be later in the year I might look into i9 7800 or 7820x. Just need to know how much better it would then kaby or coffeelake?

We don't have any decent leaks in terms of IPC yet. Only a few cinebench results from I can find.
You can bet the x series will be better but at a significant cost of history is anything to go by.

 

[Simon Belmont]

We don't have any decent leaks in terms of IPC yet. Only a few cinebench results from I can find.
You can bet the x series will be better but at a significant cost of history is anything to go by.

That's what I'm afraid of. Looking at more of a micro or itx board.

 

[DragonQ]

I wanted the 6 cores, but if it's going to be later in the year I might look into i9 7800 or 7820x. Just need to know how much better it would then kaby or coffeelake?

Same IPC, probably slightly lower clocks on the 6+ core models.

 

[EsaT]

You can bet the x series will be better but at a significant cost of history is anything to go by.

Yep, from now on X-series die will be better insulated from heatspreader just like in desktop CPUs.
https://www.techpowerup.com/233865/...-lake-x-hedt-cpus-to-use-tim-wont-be-soldered

lets be honest id probably see a nice boost with a i3 kaby lake

Only in max two thread performance.
i3 is still just dual core.

Intel skimping on cores is big reason why game developers aren't improving multithreading.
(while on consoles that's only way to get games running because of toyphone weak CPU cores)