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Intel to possibly announce even more impressive chip than 7980XE at Computex

BongoHunter said:
So do we think this chip would skt 3647?
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I can't see it happening at all - aside from the thermal/power limits of getting this to 5Ghz, who is going to buy a $10,000 chip - enterprise customers can justify it, but I can't see Intel suddenly taking a huge loss to sell it as a HEDT processor (when the 7980Xe is £1699, so this would need to be £2000-£3000?)
 
sideways14a said:
Cant see 32c threadripper +s, but def threadripper 2s
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TSMC have started 7nm volume production.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12677/tsmc-kicks-off-volume-production-of-7nm-chips

AMD are splitting CPU / GPU production between TSMC and GloFo
https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd-7nm-tsmc-globalfoundries

64 core EPYC
https://www.pcper.com/news/Processors/AMD-EPYC-Rome-Rumors-7nm-64-Cores-2-Designs

Don't be surprised if in August AMD pull a 7nm 32 core Threadripper 2 out of the hat :) and a 7nm 2800X ;)
 
humbug said:
Don't be surprised if in August AMD pull a 7nm 32 core Threadripper 2 out of the hat :) and a 7nm 2800X ;)
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The current Threadripper design allows for up to four 2-CCX, 8-core dies - I guess in the most optimistic case, a 24-core / 48-thread Threadripper 2950X this August with 3 working dies and 1 fake or 4 working dies but with some cores disabled.

smilingcrow said:
August 2019. :D
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7nm 2800X in April 2019 :D
 
Actually you might be partly right, if they are running 2 designs then the first one may be 6 core CCX's (12 to 48 core) Zen+, with the second 8 core CCX's (16 to 64 core) Zen 2.
All on 7nm, one at TSMC, the other at GloFo.
 
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humbug said:
Actually you might be partly right, if they are running 2 designs then the first one may be 6 core CCX's (12 to 48 core) Zen+, with the second 8 core CCX's (16 to 64 core) Zen 2.
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It seems unlikely they will release a 6C CCX on 1x nm as Zen+ is already out as a 4C.
The only way that a 6C 1x nm part makes sense is if they don't want all their eggs in an 8C 7nm basket.
Is there any hard info on whether Zen 2 will be 8 or 6 core or even both?
 
smilingcrow said:
It seems unlikely they will release a 6C CCX on 1x nm as Zen+ is already out as a 4C.
The only way that a 6C 1x nm part makes sense is if they don't want all their eggs in an 8C 7nm basket.
Is there any hard info on whether Zen 2 will be 8 or 6 core or even both?
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Wich is why the 2800X is not going to be an 8 core.
The only way you get 48 core is with 6 core CCX's and clearly the 2700X is not intended to be the last and greatest 2### series, the 2800X is not going to be a higher clocked 8 core because lets be honest 4.35Ghz is as high as 12nm Zen+ gets and that's the 2700X

TSMC started volume production of 7nm 2 months ago, to me they reserved the 2800X naming scheme for a 12 core Zen+ on TSMC, this is also where the 24 core Threadrippers and the 48 core EPYC's come from.

Later in April 2019 on GloFo we get Zen 2, 16 to 64 core.

That's my prediction. :)
 
AMD pulling a blinder like a 2800 12c/24t CPU at £370-400 would put a serious dent in the as yet unreleased 8c/16t Intel desktop CPU. It's like watching F1 with pit stop strategy, who's going for the undercut/over-cut, crazy times. :D
 
humbug said:
Wich is why the 2800X is not going to be an 8 core.
The only way you get 48 core is with 6 core CCX's and clearly the 2700X is not intended to be the last and greatest 2### series, the 2800X is not going to be a higher clocked 8 core because lets be honest 4.35Ghz is as high as 12nm Zen+ gets and that's the 2700X

TSMC started volume production of 7nm 2 months ago, to me they reserved the 2800X naming scheme for a 12 core Zen+ on TSMC, this is also where the 24 core Threadrippers and the 48 core EPYC's come from.

Later in April 2019 on GloFo we get Zen 2, 16 to 64 core.

That's my prediction. :)
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If they pull that off it will be amazing and even shockingly good.
Zen is already a Lazarus of a chip but to push it that far so soon would be mind blowing.
 
Its incredibly aggressive, its almost as if they are trying to force Intel into doing what's not good for them, like cannibalizing their best Server Silicon to for HEDT Desktop to keep up and then force them too overpriced and obsolete.
 
honestly cant see the 2800x being 12 core, the new top threadripper being higher than 16 cores and as for that 5ghz intel chip... well lolcakes.
Nawp cant see any of those going down, now i would be happy to be proven wrong though.
 
All i can add to that is Intel are not in the habit cannibalizing £10,000 server CPU's to sell for a quarter of that in Desktop HEDT because they are kind, or stupid.

They would only do that if they knew they were about to be outdone in that space with their existing CPU's, that existing CPU being the 18 core 7980XE.
 
Maybe they are squeezing this out as a premptive strike against Ryzen2.
After all this could be December before we see this thing (handy for heating your home during winter), and only a few months later we could be seeing the 3xxx series from AMD and that may well include 12 core AM4 chips running 5 Ghz.
That would put a lot of pressure on intels current 18core jobbie so maybe they think.... sod it squeeze out the silly silicon so we can say we always have the fastest (most pointless) chip.
 
Pic from the Cinebench demo;

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It will be under ln2 or something.
Sorry but i just cannot see intel holding 5k on all those cores under load like that without some silly cooling....even high end water is a major push.
 
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