Intel to possibly announce even more impressive chip than 7980XE at Computex

Undesirable · 6 Jun 2018 at 06:01

Troezar said:
Now all we need is AMD to start the same game with GPUs. I suspect that could be a lot harder though.

Yeah, we don't really need 28 core processors for games unless they're going to start loading everything into memory to be simulated in real time and not having any boundaries or LOD reduction. Still need a GPU to match though. And a very brave game dev.

Beren · 6 Jun 2018 at 06:16

The VRM's Hordes of them...

Beren · 6 Jun 2018 at 06:22

Intel are cannibalizing a $10k part to give us a $???? 28 Core HEDT platform that needs a new socket.

AMD are sticking 2 more dies on an existing product to give us a $1750?? (pure guess based on $999 launch of the 16 Core) 32 Core HEDT chip that drops into existing hardware - launching in 2 months.

If the Intel chip actually launches it is going to be a very tough sell.

sideways14a · 6 Jun 2018 at 08:28

Well that puts yesterdays intel joke 6 foot under pushing up the daises.

humbug · 6 Jun 2018 at 11:37

humbug said:
Wich is why the 2800X is not going to be an 8 core.
The only way you get 48 core is with 6 core CCX's and clearly the 2700X is not intended to be the last and greatest 2### series, the 2800X is not going to be a higher clocked 8 core because lets be honest 4.35Ghz is as high as 12nm Zen+ gets and that's the 2700X

TSMC started volume production of 7nm 2 months ago, to me they reserved the 2800X naming scheme for a 12 core Zen+ on TSMC, this is also where the 24 core Threadrippers and the 48 core EPYC's come from.

Later in April 2019 on GloFo we get Zen 2, 16 to 64 core.

That's my prediction.

Well, seems i was wrong about that.

Burr · 6 Jun 2018 at 11:43

humbug said:
Well, seems i was wrong about that.

Yeah i'd bet Zen2 TR will release as 48 core which puts major pressure on Intel to make sure their EMIB design is up to scratch.

Armageus · 6 Jun 2018 at 13:38

Apparently Intel requested the CPUs be removed...
https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/8ozp99/intel_has_swiftly_removed_their_28_core_cpu_demo/

More on the motherboard/cooling here:
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-28-core-processor-5ghz-motherboard,37213.html

BongoHunter · 6 Jun 2018 at 13:42

I wonder what clocks the Intel demo would have hit if they had the equivalent of the wraith spire refencenced in the TR2 presentation attached...

humbug · 6 Jun 2018 at 13:46

3.1Ghz ^^^^

Armageus said:
Apparently Intel requested the CPUs be removed...
https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/8ozp99/intel_has_swiftly_removed_their_28_core_cpu_demo/

More on the motherboard/cooling here:
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-28-core-processor-5ghz-motherboard,37213.html

Partners showed it was an overclocked CPU using a thousand watt water Chiller, they weren't meant to do that..... they were meant to give a very different impression.

Orcvader · 6 Jun 2018 at 13:48

Seeing that water chiller and insulation wrapping doesn't give much confidence on high sustained clock speeds. LGA3647 boards aren't cheap either... Can't really see this chip work out at all.

humbug · 6 Jun 2018 at 13:51

Orcvader said:
Seeing that water chiller and insulation wrapping doesn't give much confidence on high sustained clock speeds. LGA3647 boards aren't cheap either... Can't really see this chip work out at all.

Apparently the CPU alone was pulling 1200 Watts, i think the thought of that buzzing beside him would bring even Kaapstand out in cold sweats.

That's like electric cooking hob sort of power levels.

Vince · 6 Jun 2018 at 13:55

humbug said:
Apparently the CPU alone was pulling 1200 Watts, i think the thought of that buzzing beside him would bring even Kaapstand out in cold sweats.

That's like electric cooking hob sort of power levels.

Running costs of almost £400 a year lols.

Steedie · 6 Jun 2018 at 13:56

Intel are turning in to a bit of a laughing stock lately, a lot of their actions reek of fear and desperation because of the leaps that AMD are making.

Intel will never lose their leadership position in the market, but I think they could lose a big chunk of the share they have, stuff like this doesn't help either

Burr · 6 Jun 2018 at 13:57

Vince said:
Running costs of almost £400 a year lols.

In fairness you could heat a good portion of your house with it too. In theory.

Steedie said:
Intel are turning in to a bit of a laughing stock lately, a lot of their actions reek of fear and desperation because of the leaps that AMD are making.

Intel will never lose their leadership position in the market, but I think they could lose a big chunk of the share they have, stuff like this doesn't help either

Krzanich will be getting a golden parachute soon at this rate.

Vince · 6 Jun 2018 at 13:59

Burr said:
In fairness you could heat a good portion of your house with it too. In theory.

It's mad though, I have a 7 gpu system that pulls less than half of this power

- I remember there used to be some kind of joke about some product that it needed it's own power station. This thing literally does

Burr · 6 Jun 2018 at 14:02

Vince said:
It's mad though, I have a 7 gpu system that pulls less than half of this power - I remember there used to be some kind of joke about some product that it needed it's own power station. This thing literally does

LOL yeah. It's impractical and Intel already know it. This was all about raining on AMD's day today. Though it doesn't look like it's worked out too well.

Orcvader · 6 Jun 2018 at 14:06

Vince said:
Running costs of almost £400 a year lols.

That's assuming it doesn't keep tripping the breaker

.

https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comm...iftly_removed_their_28_core_cpu_demo/e07b42r/

Heavy overclocking is a bit of an understatement. They used a water chiller capable of removing 1000W of heat, and of course by the laws of physics that chiller draws that much power. That's on top of the estimated 1200W the CPU itself consumes. I think that would trip the breakers in your house if you live in North America. You couldn't even power the system on.

This is basically as impractical as liquid nitrogen. It's an extreme overclocking stunt Intel pulled off pretending it was a real product.

EDIT: Got the chiller wattage wrong. 1000 instead of 1700. All the info is here for people who missed the article posted on the sub. https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-28-core-processor-5ghz-motherboard,37213.html

Armageus · 6 Jun 2018 at 14:10

Orcvader said:
Can't really see this chip work out at all.

I've already said it, but can't see it happening at all. The only reason it exists was to steal AMD's thunder.

Can't find the link now, but think there was actually 2 different boards made, one by Gigabyte and one from Asus - both happen to already make Intel Scalable Server boards, so not a huge stretch for Intel to commission them to make a single socket version at relatively short notice.

humbug · 6 Jun 2018 at 14:17

I think this is relevant here...

humbug said:
You know what i find really interesting, AMD didn't have the 32 core Threadripper or the Spire Ripper air cooler there, only the 24 core CPU which they demoed against Intel's 18 core 7980XE.

To me this is AMD reacting to Intel's 28 core stunt, this is AMD saying "you know what Intel, #### you we can play that game too, only better, 32 cores and a box cooler to make the point about our power efficiency, stitch that!!!!!!"

This may have backfired in more ways than one, literally last minute change in products stacks post yesterday.

Satchfanuk · 6 Jun 2018 at 16:34

Pics on https://www.hardocp.com/news/2018/06/06/did_intel_throw_in_28core_towel_at_computex show crazy cooler used on the 5Ghz run Intel did and my word it's extreme