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Intel Update: Conroe!
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I can't believe the amount of criticism aimed at OCUK and Gibbo in particular. IT IS NOT OCUK'S FAULT. The blame lies (literally) with INTEL. IF you really feel that badly about this whole situation then vote with your feet and order an AMD.
I can completlely understand why OCUK charge for pre-orders when the order is placed for the reasons Gibbo explained - common business sense tbh. If people were not charged for pre-orders then you could simply back out at the last minute, creating more work for ocuk. I can sympathise with the people who have pre-ordered the chips and the dissapointment involved but basicly your greed to get in 1st has fueled this flame-fest which is now mis-placed and should be directed toward intel. Gibbo made the mistake in that he and OCUK simply cared enough to let there customers know what the score was. Where else would you get this personal touch? I know of quite a ew e-tailers (even the reputable ones) who would stay silent over this whole issue and simply give customers a new est. delivery date.
This whole situation sucks but those who have misplaced there anger owe OCUK and Gibbo in particualr an appology and at the same time give intel grief for what appears to be a case of taking advantage of the hype around this core imo. If this is the way intel deals with there customers and a sign of things to come then they will have one less convert to the 'blue team'.
I can completlely understand why OCUK charge for pre-orders when the order is placed for the reasons Gibbo explained - common business sense tbh. If people were not charged for pre-orders then you could simply back out at the last minute, creating more work for ocuk. I can sympathise with the people who have pre-ordered the chips and the dissapointment involved but basicly your greed to get in 1st has fueled this flame-fest which is now mis-placed and should be directed toward intel. Gibbo made the mistake in that he and OCUK simply cared enough to let there customers know what the score was. Where else would you get this personal touch? I know of quite a ew e-tailers (even the reputable ones) who would stay silent over this whole issue and simply give customers a new est. delivery date.
This whole situation sucks but those who have misplaced there anger owe OCUK and Gibbo in particualr an appology and at the same time give intel grief for what appears to be a case of taking advantage of the hype around this core imo. If this is the way intel deals with there customers and a sign of things to come then they will have one less convert to the 'blue team'.
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lol... there is no way you are going to back out and buy AMD. You are going to sit it out like everyone else. You are angry, but you'll be like a child at Christmas when your shiny new Conroe is posted to your door.
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It's a bit of a disappointment. I have time off work next week so could have built my PC then. So it's either wait or armed robbery so I can afford the 6800. Decisions, decisions 
RE: the comments on Citylink. Interesting. Try Googling for it - it's not listed. I think this says enough. However, it's owned by Rentokil - as in the people who kill things. Suppose the same service is extended to parcels. I was thinking the variable service was due to franchising - i.e. the reason why you get food poisoning at only some McDonalds. But not so. Must just be a regional thing - different areas, different staff.
RE: the comments on Citylink. Interesting. Try Googling for it - it's not listed. I think this says enough. However, it's owned by Rentokil - as in the people who kill things. Suppose the same service is extended to parcels. I was thinking the variable service was due to franchising - i.e. the reason why you get food poisoning at only some McDonalds. But not so. Must just be a regional thing - different areas, different staff.
Soldato
You mean having to wait until the day after boxing day, when the post guys actually start working again?-|ScottFree|- said:
Toytown said:
But it does make sense. And is that not what they have just done?
You can order your £800 X6800 this very minute and have it on your doorstep by Wednesday. But if you want a mainstream CPU, you have to wait another month. And if you read the other conroe thread, you can see some people changed their order from an E6700/E6600 to an X6800. So instead of spending £250, you now spend £800 which in turn means more profit for the fatcats at Intel.
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SO. my question remains unanswered as it got smothered in other posts...
i truely respect your effort gibbo but i dont think one person can hold off this croud.
anyhow..
Will there be any E6300 as i have just emailed OcUK to swap it for my pre ordered E6400 in desperate attempt to get it on friday..
i truely respect your effort gibbo but i dont think one person can hold off this croud.
anyhow..
Will there be any E6300 as i have just emailed OcUK to swap it for my pre ordered E6400 in desperate attempt to get it on friday..
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not to get on too much but Gibbo has said the distro's told him they'd have more information on launch day, they might have said they expected stock, but didn't garentee it so putting up "in stock 24th july" was infact inaccurate. it was possible but not confirmed.
afaik another retailer did infact have the x6800's on the same day ocuk did, and as with all fairly unavailable products just because they show not in stock doesn't mean they aren't getting more stock in, just if they have 10 pre-ordered and 5 come in stock, stock will never "go up" on the webpage.
other places for sure had the oem 6300's in stock first, i honestly get very very fed up with these garentee's and claims for them to become not true. of course you can twist any words around but the claims made pretty much were made to let people know that ocuk would be the first place to get any of these cpu's so ordering with you will mean you get whatever cpu fastest. ok other places got the oem's in stock first, but its still a conroe, and one far more people would have wanted than the x6800.
i wish people would start to realise, some real information and not big bold claims would be more appreciated. a thread saying that you've been told more info on the 24th, we hope to have them in stock but by no means no that for sure would have been much more informative.
and things like, intel and amd drool over our sales of extreme and overclockable cpu's is very hard to believe. small time retail/oem sales in a small country is drool worthy when we're talking tiny tiny numbers. sales direct to end users to put in self big rigs accounts for almost nothing in the grand scheme of these companys.
i really can't remember any product ocuk have had in either hugely cheaper or any sooner than anyone else(not saying they haven't, just can't think of anything specific, i can indeed remember some that were claimed to be first stock in uk despite several other stores stocking said item).
ps, stock of x6800 doesn't mean they can clearly make other cpu's and release them. look at price of the first places to get the x6800, we're talking, from what i heard, around 100 cpu's total in stock in the uk first day of availability. that probably covered most need as they sell in tiny quantities. there are probably a thousand or more pre-orders on just the 6600 across the stores in the uk, changing half the x6800 rebadged to E6600 wouldnt' help anyone, other than they would be hugely, insanely overpriced as demand/availability ratio would be 100's of times worse than the x6800 situation.
afaik another retailer did infact have the x6800's on the same day ocuk did, and as with all fairly unavailable products just because they show not in stock doesn't mean they aren't getting more stock in, just if they have 10 pre-ordered and 5 come in stock, stock will never "go up" on the webpage.
other places for sure had the oem 6300's in stock first, i honestly get very very fed up with these garentee's and claims for them to become not true. of course you can twist any words around but the claims made pretty much were made to let people know that ocuk would be the first place to get any of these cpu's so ordering with you will mean you get whatever cpu fastest. ok other places got the oem's in stock first, but its still a conroe, and one far more people would have wanted than the x6800.
i wish people would start to realise, some real information and not big bold claims would be more appreciated. a thread saying that you've been told more info on the 24th, we hope to have them in stock but by no means no that for sure would have been much more informative.
and things like, intel and amd drool over our sales of extreme and overclockable cpu's is very hard to believe. small time retail/oem sales in a small country is drool worthy when we're talking tiny tiny numbers. sales direct to end users to put in self big rigs accounts for almost nothing in the grand scheme of these companys.
i really can't remember any product ocuk have had in either hugely cheaper or any sooner than anyone else(not saying they haven't, just can't think of anything specific, i can indeed remember some that were claimed to be first stock in uk despite several other stores stocking said item).
ps, stock of x6800 doesn't mean they can clearly make other cpu's and release them. look at price of the first places to get the x6800, we're talking, from what i heard, around 100 cpu's total in stock in the uk first day of availability. that probably covered most need as they sell in tiny quantities. there are probably a thousand or more pre-orders on just the 6600 across the stores in the uk, changing half the x6800 rebadged to E6600 wouldnt' help anyone, other than they would be hugely, insanely overpriced as demand/availability ratio would be 100's of times worse than the x6800 situation.
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this_is_gav said:You mean having to wait until the day after boxing day, when the post guys actually start working again?
Soldato
May pick up a 4Mb 2.4 later in the year, my ES 6400 is sweet though 
Soldato
LOL... i've had nothing but trouble from City-Link... wish they would have kept Amtrack and Royal Mail options as before tbh.Gashman said:
Concorde Rules said:So, OcUK, 9/10 support, 9/10 for product range and 9/10 for pricing, sort the posatge on small items and we are looking good!
agreed, i needed a DVI to VGA converter some months back and was looking at £8 postage... :-/
the item itself was only about £2, the total was £10
luckily a mate was doing a major upgrade to his system and buying off OcUK so he stuck it on his order.
Soldato
Yeah as much as i love AMD, they really gotta pull together, i don't think K8L is all its made out to be. Totally new core from scratch is prolly the only solution.
drunkenmaster said:
So very true. The few cpu sales that OCUK can muster really wouldnt mean much to a giant like Intel. The OEM customers (like Dell) are what Intel cares mostly about. And for this reason I dont quite understand why Intel distributors would give OCUK preference over other stores.
One things for sure though and that is OCUK have had stock of X6800 available since launch day and will probably continue to do so for the foreseeable future. The same cannot be said about the other e-tailors who dont seem to have any stock of X6800s.
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sunama said:
you have to remember that most of a CPUs reputation comes from the high end users that know what they are shouting about, the other 99% of the market, ie the people that dont have clue listen to people like us rave about conroe and then decide they want one when in actual fact they couldnt tell the difference between conroe and and old 3500+. So the idea is get the enthusiasts on side and then watch the OEM demand rocket. Since OCuk probably controls most of the enthusiast demand then that makes them the perfect people to supply. Its all in the name, Overclockers shouts enthusiast market!
Its very disappointing for people waiting, at least there is some information on it though. Hopefully it will be worth the wait for people.
I wonder whether the delay is also to do with the release of more motherboards in August etc - Conroe seems have developed before the mainstream part of its supporting technology (though it does have some good boards most seem to require a higher degree of knowledge to get working than some users might have).
I wonder whether the delay is also to do with the release of more motherboards in August etc - Conroe seems have developed before the mainstream part of its supporting technology (though it does have some good boards most seem to require a higher degree of knowledge to get working than some users might have).