iphone down to £169

Ugh... still in two minds about this dammit.

Just a few questions.

Say I bought an iPhone today and jailbroke it, could I reset it to how it was before? I.e. as if it hasn't been opened before?

Also, if it is possible to do the above, could I sign up on the iPhone O2 tarrif at anytime? (no time limit between purchasing the iPhone and signing up on contract)?

Can anyone confirm, the features which we wont be able to use with a jailbroken iPhone e.g. visual voicemail etc?

Also, is it easy to setup the facilities such as GPRS/WAP settings/Voicemail settings etc on a jailbroken iPhone?

And also, is it syncable to Outlook?

Ah and one more thing! I understand the latest iPhone update is 1.1.4.

Is it bad to keep a jailbroken phone docked, incase Apple release a new patch that isnt supported by the Jailbreak software?
 
Bought mine this morning too. Jailbroken it, now it's doing a 162MB firmware upgrade (shipped with 1.1.2, getting 1.1.4), so I'll have to jailbreak it again next.

Sod 3G, this is damn sexy.
 
Freakitchen said:
Bought mine this morning too. Jailbroken it, now it's doing a 162MB firmware upgrade (shipped with 1.1.2, getting 1.1.4), so I'll have to jailbreak it again next.

Sod 3G, this is damn sexy.
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Can I ask why you jailbreaked it twice Freakitchen? Do you need to jailbreak it to update it?
(I have no idea about this!)
 
Cavallino said:
Ugh... still in two minds about this dammit.

Just a few questions.

Say I bought an iPhone today and jailbroke it, could I reset it to how it was before? I.e. as if it hasn't been opened before? Yes, you can restore it at any time using itunes (or Ziphone too, I believe), and it will be 'as new'

Also, if it is possible to do the above, could I sign up on the iPhone O2 tarrif at anytime? (no time limit between purchasing the iPhone and signing up on contract)? Again, I believe you can, though I definitely intend giving an O2 simplicity tariff a try first, so much more for your money and no 18-month tie-in

Can anyone confirm, the features which we wont be able to use with a jailbroken iPhone e.g. visual voicemail etc? Sorry, no idea on this yet

Also, is it easy to setup the facilities such as GPRS/WAP settings/Voicemail settings etc on a jailbroken iPhone? Again, don't know, but I have a Vodafone Sim at the minute so we'll see, apparently there are plenty of instructions about for other carriers

And also, is it syncable to Outlook? Yes, iTunes gave me that option during setup for calendar, phonebook, etc.

Ah and one more thing! I understand the latest iPhone update is 1.1.4. Yes, see my post above about jailbreaking/updating

Is it bad to keep a jailbroken phone docked, incase Apple release a new patch that isnt supported by the Jailbreak software? In my experience with Apple firmware updates, it won't do it automatically, you get the option on the iPhone screen
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Cavallino said:
Can I ask why you jailbreaked it twice Freakitchen? Do you need to jailbreak it to update it?
(I have no idea about this!)
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Yeah, all you get in iTunes with a brand new iphone is the activation wizard which takes you through the contact sign up. I jailbroke it first, which gave me the standard iphone screen - there I was prompted to do a firmware update. This is downloading as I type, though I understand as part of the firmware update the device gets fully flashed by iTunes, and so has to be broken again.
 
I suggest all those interested in buying the iPhone check out the sticky in the Mac Hardware forum.

It has all the FAQs, and quite a lot of info that I've seen being asked here.

Such as;

You cannot send files over Bluetooth
You do not sign a contract when buying instore OR online.. it's done in iTunes
You can restore the phone to a factory state by doing a "restore" in iTunes
All SIMs can be used, except those horrible 3 ones
EDGE can be turned on or off if you jailbreak it
02 or Apple are the best places to buy. CPW do not accept returns.
 
Cheers for the responses freakitchen. Appreciated fella.

So I kept hearing stories of people bricking their iPhones, how did they do this?
 
Freakitchen said:
Bought mine this morning too. Jailbroken it, now it's doing a 162MB firmware upgrade (shipped with 1.1.2, getting 1.1.4), so I'll have to jailbreak it again next.

Sod 3G, this is damn sexy.
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I've heard that upgrading after a jailbreak will break it and that you actually need to restore it to get to the latest firmware.
 
Possibly - I'll be able to tell you in 4 minutes or so :p

There was no option to upgrade the firmware without jailbreaking first, so nothing more/less I could do on that score.

What I will say is that using ziphone was incredibly easy - just one click on the 'do it all button' after opening iTunes and connecting the iPhone. No need with the new version to enter recovery mode first, it does it all for you. Whole process took about 4 minutes.
 
Freakitchen said:
Yeah, all you get in iTunes with a brand new iphone is the activation wizard which takes you through the contact sign up. I jailbroke it first, which gave me the standard iphone screen - there I was prompted to do a firmware update. This is downloading as I type, though I understand as part of the firmware update the device gets fully flashed by iTunes, and so has to be broken again.
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You can update the firmware out of the box by just hitting 'Restore' in iTunes. It's ordinarily not adviseable to ever upgrade a jb/unlocked/activated iPhone, but always to restore (clear settings and reflash) then restore your backup onto it.

Say I bought an iPhone today and jailbroke it, could I reset it to how it was before? I.e. as if it hasn't been opened before? Yes, you can restore it at any time using itunes (or Ziphone too, I believe), and it will be 'as new'
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It'll be close to 'as new'. ZiPhone permanently downgrades the bootloader to 3.9. Apparently this cannot be reversed without physically dismantling the phone and performing a hardware flash. This is apparently why some recommend using iLiberty+ instead, as this uses a fake-bootloader which is reverseable.
 
Freakitchen said:
There was no option to upgrade the firmware without jailbreaking first, so nothing more/less I could do on that score.
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As above, update it using 'restore'. You shouldn't ever be using Upgrade in iTunes. All this info's in Justin's Sticky, guys. See Mac Hardware.
 
PiKe said:
But how can you get the latest firmware if its not activated?
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What I'm saying is that an upgrade won't work on a jail broken iPhone or at least could screw it up. This is why your safest upgrading with an activated iPhone.

On a completely unrelated matter if you have an activated iPhone and something goes wrong with it then a restore will put you back to the latest firmware and should restore all your photos, music and texts too.
 
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Ordered. My month old 16GB will be on a certain auction site soon. I might wait till this deal finishes. Still need to put my iPod touch on the site too actually.
 
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