Iphone OS 3.0...

wush said:
I liked some of the BSing in the presentation. The guy said something along the lines of being 'truly blown away' by what all the developers had made with the 3.0 preview, then a couple of dudes came on and demonstrated some snooze-fest push-text-IM thing. Ahmagawd :D

Because they were all ****.
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you dont half like to troll apple related thread dont you, didnt you put your ore in the mac osx on non mac hardware thread, if you dont like apple dont post here
 
MrMoonX said:
you dont half like to troll apple related thread dont you, didnt you put your ore in the mac osx on non mac hardware thread, if you dont like apple dont post here
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(1) I have two Macs, an iPhone and OS X is my preferred OS. (2) I was completely correct in that thread. (3) I'll post where I like.

Good day!
 
msmalls74 said:
They did that with me last year, got my iphone V1 in May last year upgraded to iPhone V2 in july. My old 18 month contract was superceded by the new one, so instead of having 18 months from May i had 18 months from July.
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Differance between the 2G and the 3G is that the 3G was heavily subsadised and the 2G was not.

So if a new version comes out in the summer, expect to pay, and pay a lot.
 
MrMoonX said:
you dont half like to troll apple related thread dont you, didnt you put your ore in the mac osx on non mac hardware thread, if you dont like apple dont post here
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I wouldn't call wush a troll, just a straight talker :confused:

@ Hatter The Mad.. Before the iPhone, the only devices worth using were Blackberrys and even they were convoluted and limited.

As soon as the iPhone burst on to the scene the industry stood up and took notice. This is shown by the countless knock-offs that spawned up. I'm not saying the iPhone V1 was the best smartphone but it did kick the mobile market in the nads and force people to better it.
 
I don't think it was because smartphones were unpopular or unavailable I think that the iPhone brought the Smartphone concept into the Mainstream market, and it's grown incredibly since then! :D
 
Hatter The Mad said:
No it isn't, it is Apple talking out of their ass.


This isn't true. Any media message is sent using whatever radio is available - whether it is GSM (GPRS or EDGE) or UTMS (3G).


Correct, just like multipart e-mail messages.


Now you are talking out of your ass. Firstly you said (rightly) that MMS messages are just encoded into the same format as SMS messages, and transmitted the same way as SMS are. The iPhone 1 has no SMS length limitation, and it can do this. SMS messages use whatever radio is available - the same radio that carries your voice, data, video - whatever.

This isn't true, either. SwirlyMMS just does what any other phone does, which is encode multipart multimedia content into a long SMS message.
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According to the mobile association who define the MMS standard MMS (Multimedia Messaging Service) messages are sent using a combination of SMS and WAP technologies. When an MMS message is sent, a mobile device receives an MMS notification message via SMS. When this MMS notification message is received by the mobile device, the mobile device automatically initiates a WAP gateway connection to download the content of the MMS message.

Now I believe that as the iphone 2.5g does not support WAP it would be difficult for it to implement true MMS. What Swirly does is I believe is a work around using WAP over GPRS. Whereas the 3G iphone does support WAP which is why it can support true MMS.
 
SimonR said:
According to the mobile association who define the MMS standard MMS (Multimedia Messaging Service) messages are sent using a combination of SMS and WAP technologies. When an MMS message is sent, a mobile device receives an MMS notification message via SMS. When this MMS notification message is received by the mobile device, the mobile device automatically initiates a WAP gateway connection to download the content of the MMS message.
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Correct

Now I believe that as the iphone 2.5g does not support WAP it would be difficult for it to implement true MMS.
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It does. When you don't have any EDGE receiption and you see that small little cirlce, that is 'WAP' (GPRS).
 
SimonR said:
According to the Iphone 2.5g manual the iPhone does NOT support WAP it does support GPRS.
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The Safari browser does not support WAP pages, you are correct. WAP is not a communications protocol in the same way that GPRS is - it is an application protocol. People often misuse the term "WAP" to mean GPRS over GSM.

I think you are misunderstanding what WAP and GPRS are.

GPRS allows WAP to work in packet mode instead of circuit mode. (And it will be much faster as well.) WAP also works over existing packet technologies such as CDPD, and other 3G technologies such as EDGE and WCDMA.

GPRS is a road. WAP is a specification for things that use the road.
 
Hatter The Mad said:
GPRS is a road. WAP is a specification for things that use the road.
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Dude, your some kind of iPhone jedi.:D

Vast your knowledge is mmmmmm.

I recently upgraded and got an iPhone.
Before doing so however, subjected the guy from o2 to the "I've been with you for 5 years upgrading 12 months at a time and like to replace my handset a bit more regular than the 18 month contract your now offering me thank you very much" spiel. To wit he replied, "I understand sir, however with the release of a new iPhone in the summer you will be given the opportunity to upgrade free of charge".

So make of that what you will.
Role on the summer I say.
 
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Kawolski said:
I recently upgraded and got an iPhone.
Before doing so however, subjected the guy from o2 to the "I've been with you for 5 years upgrading 12 months at a time and like to replace my handset a bit more regular than the 18 month contract your now offering me thank you very much" spiel. To wit he replied, "I understand sir, however with the release of a new iPhone in the summer you will be given the opportunity to upgrade free of charge".

So make of that what you will.
Role on the summer I say.
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lol good luck i say, come the summer you will be told "we have no record of you ever being told that sir, come back in another 10 months time when your contract is up" ;-) get it in writing mate!!
 
Kawolski said:
Dude, your some kind of iPhone jedi.:D

Vast your knowledge is mmmmmm.

I recently upgraded and got an iPhone.
Before doing so however, subjected the guy from o2 to the "I've been with you for 5 years upgrading 12 months at a time and like to replace my handset a bit more regular than the 18 month contract your now offering me thank you very much" spiel. To wit he replied, "I understand sir, however with the release of a new iPhone in the summer you will be given the opportunity to upgrade free of charge".

So make of that what you will.
Role on the summer I say.
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I doubt very much that the call centre monkeys at O2 know any more about a new version iPhone than we all do at present, the only people in O2 that will know will be those that are a lot higher up the food chain.
 
Kawolski said:
Dude, your some kind of iPhone jedi.:D

Vast your knowledge is mmmmmm.

I recently upgraded and got an iPhone.
Before doing so however, subjected the guy from o2 to the "I've been with you for 5 years upgrading 12 months at a time and like to replace my handset a bit more regular than the 18 month contract your now offering me thank you very much" spiel. To wit he replied, "I understand sir, however with the release of a new iPhone in the summer you will be given the opportunity to upgrade free of charge".

So make of that what you will.
Role on the summer I say.
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what about people that buy the 3g one on PAYG?? will they be given the chance to upgrade for a lesser price?
 
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