Iraq Campaign Medal

Give him a break, anyone putting themselves in theatre, regardless of if it's within the perimeter of base, is risking their own life doing so and therefore deserves a medal. Grunts who are outside the wire and then moan about it chose the wrong job!

Well done fella, feels good eh? :D

Why should i give him a break, he was a contractor only there for one reason ££££ i went there for one reason as well, to do the job i love and chose to do, why should he get something that he has not earnt, i have trained for the last 10 years to do my job in hostile places and the medal is the only recognition we receive that’s why it has bugged me, that medal is from our head of state to those that have served her, not those who take the opportunity to make some quick cash. I don’t believe you will get the medal, I have friends in both Afghan and Iraq currently on CP who are civis and they are looking after British Diplomats, getting paid by the Government (not MoD) and they won’t receive anything other than enough cash to purchase a new house every 6 months. Show me any source where any other civi has received it, bar MoD, I can’t find any.

However without you telling me more of your situation i can never find out the facts, ill be interested to see what the medal office has to say, i may give them a ring just to curve my curiosity.

And why have ago "Grunts" its these "Grunts" that kept the other person alive, all soldiers moan about the Job its part of being a soldier, i am in a good job on great pay have a fantastic lifestyle drive 2 brand new cars why would i want to chose something else and a lot of soldiers chose to be infantiers not because they are stupid, far from it, its because they want to serve front line for their country something a lot of people could never comprehend, a lot of infantiers have degrees, most officer infantiers are loaded beyond comprehension as its part of the requirement to be able to support a very expensive lifestyle.
 
Why should i give him a break, he was a contractor only there for one reason ££££ i went there for one reason as well, to do the job i love and chose to do, why should he get something that he has not earnt, i have trained for the last 10 years to do my job in hostile places and the medal is the only recognition we receive that’s why it has bugged me, that medal is from our head of state to those that have served her, not those who take the opportunity to make some quick cash. I don’t believe you will get the medal, I have friends in both Afghan and Iraq currently on CP who are civis and they are looking after British Diplomats, getting paid by the Government (not MoD) and they won’t receive anything other than enough cash to purchase a new house every 6 months. Show me any source where any other civi has received it, bar MoD, I can’t find any.

However without you telling me more of your situation i can never find out the facts, ill be interested to see what the medal office has to say, i may give them a ring just to curve my curiosity.

And why have ago "Grunts" its these "Grunts" that kept the other person alive, all soldiers moan about the Job its part of being a soldier, i am in a good job on great pay have a fantastic lifestyle drive 2 brand new cars why would i want to chose something else and a lot of soldiers chose to be infantiers not because they are stupid, far from it, its because they want to serve front line for their country something a lot of people could never comprehend, a lot of infantiers have degrees, most officer infantiers are loaded beyond comprehension as its part of the requirement to be able to support a very expensive lifestyle.


I wasn't a contractor and I didn't only do it for the money, I admit the money helped but it was no where near what the contractors were on. You need to read the thread proper before berating people.

I have in no way asked for this medal and I have every respect for the Armed Forces that are out there doing there job for us.

I really don't see why people have a problem with me getting a medal, I just wanted to share my good news with people. Next time I'll not bother.
 
It doesnt matter if you wear a combat uniform, or a suit. If you are in a war zone, and working to aid the war effort, then you deserve the recognition the same as any person out there.

Yes the pay may be a lot more then in the army, but a medal isnt payment for a service done. Its a reward in recognition of a persons acts. Now i dont know what the OP did in iraq, but if the government is giving him a medal, then i think he must have done something worthy to earn in, the same as any in the armed forces. Only difference is that he wasnt wearing combats and didnt carry a gun.
 
Why should i give him a break, he was a contractor only there for one reason ££££ i went there for one reason as well, to do the job i love and chose to do,

How can you be so certain? Maybe he loves to do it to?

Why should he get something that he has not earnt.
Who are you to say he hasn't earnt it?

I have trained for the last 10 years to do my job in hostile places and the medal is the only recognition we receive that’s why it has bugged me, that medal is from our head of state to those that have served her, not those who take the opportunity to make some quick cash.

If, after 10 years of training, you think a medal is the only recognition you have then I feel sorry for you. A medal is a bonus.

However without you telling me more of your situation i can never find out the facts.
Exactly

And why have ago "Grunts" its these "Grunts" that kept the other person alive, all soldiers moan about the Job its part of being a soldier, i am in a good job on great pay have a fantastic lifestyle drive 2 brand new cars why would i want to chose something else and a lot of soldiers chose to be infantiers not because they are stupid, far from it, its because they want to serve front line for their country something a lot of people could never comprehend, a lot of infantiers have degrees, most officer infantiers are loaded beyond comprehension as its part of the requirement to be able to support a very expensive lifestyle.

I didn't, I'm criticising those who moan about their job claimiing other services men get a better life... choose a better job?? :confused:

+ you give the guy stick for working there for money alone yet your second paragraph bangs on about pay and officers in the army being loaded. Some what a contradiction, surely they shouldnt care about that because they are doing a job "they have worked hard to do and love"?
 
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i think you'll find the officers who are 'loaded' have a second income - you'll normally find them in guards or cavalry regiments.

I do have to agree with dsb's sentiments though, dishing these things out to civvies is cheapening the award a bit.

I don't have a problem with contractors getting some recognition (if they were working directly for british forces or the british govt) but I certainly don't think they should be getting the same gong as british forces.
 
its all great that you went over there and everything and you do deserve some respect, but i agree it cheapens the value of the award a bit, best mate just coming back a few weeks ago didnt particulaly go in the thick of it in afghan but was at risk a hell of a lot more than a civvy IT contractor and no doubt you as a civvy got payed way more.
I would have thought a thanks letter or something along those lines would be better suited, for supporting the rebuilding on afghan from the queen/afghan government or whatever.
 
tbh i think the "contractor" thing is irrelevant. The real source of the bad feeling here is that you're a civilian, doing IT work, getting a miliatary medal.

No offence to you, but it does cheapen the award a little for the serving soldiers who got them.
 
Unless you’re not telling us something, then you went out to Iraq for one thing and one thing only £££ so you got what you went for, imo you deserve nothing more for your time out there, I got my Iraq medal with Rosette so I know how it feels and how it smells, I know how it feels to pull a trigger, or command a regiment of AS90s, civvies out in Iraq and Afghan get their thanks in the pay packet.

I’m not saying your services are not required infact far from it, but my medals mean something to me, they remind me of mates who will never be forgotten and when I have the opportunity to wear them I do it with pride.

Ah, but can you defrag a hard drive?

Going to war isn't just about shooting people, all the systems need to be kept up and running - and if that means that some IT chaps have to visit a warzone to do their job (rather than just a regular client site) then that's fair enough.
 
Ah, but can you defrag a hard drive?

Going to war isn't just about shooting people, all the systems need to be kept up and running - and if that means that some IT chaps have to visit a warzone to do their job (rather than just a regular client site) then that's fair enough.

i've got no problem with signals etc.. getting medals, but it seems a bit daft that civies get medals too.

imo, if they want to give medals to reward civilians for their efforts, they need to have a different medal to the serving soldiers.
 
i've got no problem with signals etc.. getting medals, but it seems a bit daft that civies get medals too.

imo, if they want to give medals to reward civilians for their efforts, they need to have a different medal to the serving soldiers.

why should they get a different medal if the medal is given for the same reason? If two people help in iraq or afghanistan, why should they get different medals just because one is in the armed forces and the other is not? They both may be doing the exact same job.
 
Because of course mortar shells obey the laws of a perimeter fence :rolleyes:

Good on you matey and well done is what I say.

Civilians wont leave the permiter fence though, Signals will

Thats why in my oppinion (wrong are right) civilians shouldnt get a medal at all, or if they do get one, the serving military should get a higher one to distinguish between their efforts

says it all on the MOD website that currently civilians arent entitled to them, so the rules obviously changed ...
 
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doing a bit of reasearch, the only medal i can find that the OP might be awarded is the Iraq medal.

Criteria for this to be awarded are 30 days service during the very height of the battle during march and april ' 03.

http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/DefenceFor/Veterans/Medals/Iraq.htm

service inside a fortified compound in 2006 doesnt seem to get you a medal so im not sure exactly what the MOD are playing at.
 
What's with all the trolls?

Who cares about your opinions on whether or not civilians deserve medals, in a thread where they not asked for, and are completely irrelevant. Fair play to him for going out there. If you don't like it post a thread about it. Don't ruin someone else's.

Fair play to ya , OP :)
 
All you trolls are highlighting your ignorance in the most moronic of fashions.

Congratulations to the OP! - In a war zone, every effort counts and contributes, civilian or military. Well done, you wouldn't find me working out in a war zone therefore I doth my cap!
 
doing a bit of reasearch, the only medal i can find that the OP might be awarded is the Iraq medal.

Criteria for this to be awarded are 30 days service during the very height of the battle during march and april ' 03.

http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/DefenceFor/Veterans/Medals/Iraq.htm

service inside a fortified compound in 2006 doesnt seem to get you a medal so im not sure exactly what the MOD are playing at.

the dates you mentioned are for the medal with the clasp. You can server at other times in Iraq and still get the medal, just without the clasp.
 
are you a RAF electrician or something? You keep saying your not a contractor your not a civil servant, your not in the signals. You might as well say exactly what you do and who you work for. People might be able to understand the medal scenario better then.
 
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