Is it ok to be proud to be white?

cheesyboy · 4 May 2019 at 20:40

robfosters said:
Discrimination does happen, I don’t deny that. But I do feel that it’s blown out of proportion a lot and not as bad as many will have you believe.

So why would you consider it a "travesty" if white people were put in the minority position? If it's not that bad.

sinwave · 4 May 2019 at 20:41

cheesyboy said:
I said culture and politics was dominated by whiteness, in response to you asking what white dominance was. And I mentioned white dominance because it can surely only be what is on the mind of someone worried about white birth rates, since Caucasians remain a very sizeable population in no danger of extinction: what else could they be concerned about?

what about culture and politics is dominated by whiteness? it appears to be completely preoccupied with everything but, except in a negative sense.

perhaps it can get even more negative.

cheesyboy · 4 May 2019 at 20:45

sinwave said:
what about culture and politics is dominated by whiteness? it appears to be completely preoccupied with everything but.

World politics is dominated by white people from predominantly white countries.

Worldwide culture is dominated by white people from predominantly white countries.

And people worried about white birth rates are likely really worried about losing this dominance. Hence, they are white supremacists.

robfosters · 4 May 2019 at 20:47

cheesyboy said:
So why would you consider it a "travesty" if white people were put in the minority position? If it's not that bad.

Because it’s always been a white British and Christian country. Such a demographic change wouldn’t be accepted in any other country, why should it be accepted here?

robfosters · 4 May 2019 at 20:49

cheesyboy said:
World politics is dominated by white people from predominantly white countries.

Worldwide culture is dominated by white people from predominantly white countries.

And people worried about white birth rates are likely really worried about losing this dominance. Hence, they are white supremacists.

Yeah, that will be why the US, supposedly the most racist country in the world voted in a black president over a white candidate over ten years ago.

wesimmo · 4 May 2019 at 20:51

The sooner we're all one race the better. It'll be one less thing for humans to waste their time fighting over and turning their efforts and trillions of pounds into doing something useful, like ending poverty and doing something about climate change.

cheesyboy · 4 May 2019 at 20:51

robfosters said:
Because it’s always been a white British and Christian country. Such a demographic change wouldn’t be accepted in any other country, why should it be accepted here?

Why does it matter, outside of white exceptionalism? The grand history would still be in the annals. What's the travesty?

And "always a Christian country" is a bit of an odd claim. I mean, druids and celts and Romans and vikings and such.

robfosters · 4 May 2019 at 20:52

wesimmo said:
The sooner we're all one race the better. It'll be one less thing for humans to waste their time fighting over and turning their efforts and trillions of pounds into doing something useful, like ending poverty and doing something about climate change.

One race eh? So much for diversity.

sinwave · 4 May 2019 at 20:53

cheesyboy said:
World politics is dominated by white people from predominantly white countries.

Worldwide culture is dominated by white people from predominantly white countries.

And people worried about white birth rates are likely really worried about losing this dominance. Hence, they are white supremacists.

firstly, did anyone but you bring up the idea of global influence as an important thing to maintain? it's not something i'd considered

secondly, i don't really care about influencing the culture of other countries, but I dare say many of their cultures can go straight in the ******* and I don't want them here. that's nothing to do with skin colour of the people who developed their cultures. it's just that white people all existed in an area of the world that experienced swifter development for geographic reasons.

cheesyboy · 4 May 2019 at 20:53

robfosters said:
Yeah, that will be why the US, supposedly the most racist country in the world voted in a black president over a white candidate over ten years ago.

Damn, what a gotcha. A single non white leader of a western nation. Not at all dominated by whites: I take it all back.

robfosters · 4 May 2019 at 20:54

cheesyboy said:
Why does it matter, outside of white exceptionalism? The grand history would still be in the annals. What's the travesty?

And "always a Christian country" is a bit of an odd claim. I mean, druids and celts and Romans and vikings and such.

That was like a thousand years ago.

wesimmo · 4 May 2019 at 20:54

cheesyboy said:
Why does it matter, outside of white exceptionalism? The grand history would still be in the annals. What's the travesty?

And "always a Christian country" is a bit of an odd claim. I mean, druids and celts and Romans and vikings and such.

Remember, pretty much every time our country has been invaded and our culture and genetics have changed, it's been to a different shade of white, that's ok, it's only when you dirty it with brown that culture developing is an issue.

robfosters · 4 May 2019 at 20:54

cheesyboy said:
Damn, what a gotcha. A single non white leader of a western nation. Not at all dominated by whites: I take it all back.

The most powerful western nation and probably the most powerful western nation in the world.

cheesyboy · 4 May 2019 at 20:57

sinwave said:
firstly, did anyone but you bring up the idea of global influence as an important thing to maintain? it's not something i'd considered

secondly, i don't really care about influencing the culture of other countries, but I dare say many of their cultures can go straight in the ******* and I don't want them here. that's nothing to do with skin colour of the people who developed their cultures. it's just that white people all existed in an area of the world that experienced swifter development for geographic reasons.

Whatever. I didn't commence this argument with you, did I? So what you think about skin colour isn't what I've been talking about.

I took it up with the guys who are concerned with white birth rates, who reckon that such concern is not at all racist.

Try and keep track of the conversation and we'll all save wasting time.

sinwave · 4 May 2019 at 20:58

wesimmo said:
Remember, pretty much every time our country has been invaded and our culture and genetics have changed, it's been to a different shade of white, that's ok, it's only when you dirty it with brown that culture developing is an issue.

invasion is typically welcomed, why aren't they welcoming it this time?

sinwave · 4 May 2019 at 21:01

cheesyboy said:
Whatever. I didn't commence this argument with you, did I? So what you think about skin colour isn't what I've been talking about.

I took it up with the guys who are concerned with white birth rates, who reckon that such concern is not at all racist.

Try and keep track of the conversation and we'll all save wasting time.

I'm concerned with white birth rates. I'd like to maintain a white british populations, white french populations, white italian populations, I think they are cool.

I don't like the white french as a rule, but i'd be sad if they were gone.

cheesyboy · 4 May 2019 at 21:01

robfosters said:
The most powerful western nation and probably the most powerful western nation in the world.

Whoopee do, 1 from 45: no dominance. And I guess he had two houses of government which were not stacked in favour of white faces?

Are you really contending that world politics isn't dominated by whiteness? You'll need more than Obama for that one.

cheesyboy · 4 May 2019 at 21:04

sinwave said:
I'm concerned with white birth rates. I'd like to maintain a white british populations, white french populations, white italian populations, I think they are cool.

Oh. They're cool?

Damn, didn't realise. That's alright then. We should sure be concerned to keep these countries white.

(that's the worst cover argument for white supremacy I've read this year. Congrats)

robfosters · 4 May 2019 at 21:04

cheesyboy said:
Whoopee do, 1 from 45: no dominance. And I guess he had two houses of government which were not stacked in favour of white faces?

Are you really contending that world politics isn't dominated by whiteness? You'll need more than Obama for that one.

Ok, let’s turn your argument on it’s head. If it’s no problem for whites to be a minority in the UK, why is it a problem for whites to be the majority in politics? Smacks of double standards.

sinwave · 4 May 2019 at 21:06

cheesyboy said:
Are you really contending that world politics isn't dominated by whiteness? You'll need more than Obama for that one.

won't last long we're seeing the fall of rome.