Is it ok to be proud to be white?

Oh. They're cool?

Damn, didn't realise. That's alright then. We should sure be concerned to keep these countries white.

(that's the worst cover argument for white supremacy I've read this year. Congrats)

I never stipulated that the country should be kept white, nor did I say that whites were superior. I said I would like white populations to be maintained.

it does seem difficult to do without borders, i'll grant you that.
 
Cognitive dissonance
No cognitive dissonance. I’m not a white supremacist and never have been. I may have views which you find disagreeable, but that doesn’t prove me to be a white supremacist. If I was, I’d consider members of my own family beneath me, which I certainly do not.
 
No cognitive dissonance. I’m not a white supremacist and never have been. I may have views which you find disagreeable, but that doesn’t prove me to be a white supremacist. If I was, I’d consider members of my own family beneath me, which I certainly do not.
There's some overlap with your belief in white exceptionalism, rights to the fruits of past white labour, and white supremacy.

I absolutely believe you dislike supremacists, are not one, and wouldn't consider yourself one, but there must be some discomfort for you that you align with them in such a way(?)
 
There's some overlap with your belief in white exceptionalism, rights to the fruits of past white labour, and white supremacy.

I absolutely believe you dislike supremacists, are not one, and wouldn't consider yourself one, but there must be some discomfort for you that you align with them in such a way(?)
perhaps he can identify that white supremacists can have correct views as well as incorrect ones.

i don't think vegans worry too much about sharing eating habits with the fuhrer
 
There's some overlap with your belief in white exceptionalism, rights to the fruits of past white labour, and white supremacy.

I absolutely believe you dislike supremacists, are not one, and wouldn't consider yourself one, but there must be some discomfort for you that you align with them in such a way(?)
Yes I do question my own views sometimes, but I don’t feel discomfort, because I believe in them through the love of myself and my own heritage, not through the hatred of others.

I don’t hate anyone unless they cause harm to other innocent people. I feel we’re reaching a balance in this country where all people are treated equally. I just worry any large demographic change will start to impact that.
 
it's a **** example, the argument is fine.
I think the argument, such as it is, is just a reworded version of Trump's "good people on both sides" which doesn't stand up to much scrutiny.

robfosters said:
Yes I do question my own views sometimes, but I don’t feel discomfort, because I believe in them through the love of myself and my own heritage, not through the hatred of others.

I don’t hate anyone unless they cause harm to other innocent people. I feel we’re reaching a balance in this country where all people are treated equally. I just worry any large demographic change will start to impact that.
What's interesting here is that this passage doesn't really reflect the way you explain your views in this and other threads. I mean, it's clear that you believe this to be true and I'm sure you stand behind it but it doesn't tally up with the way you've expressed yourself elsewhere. So, as said earlier, cognitive dissonance.
 
I think the argument, such as it is, is just a reworded version of Trump's "good people on both sides" which doesn't stand up to much scrutiny.
if that's what you take from it, something has been lost in communication. the point is that your agreement with someone to a point is not invalidated by a disagreement either beyond that point or on another issue.

what is your problem with what trump said?
 
if that's what you take from it, something has been lost in communication. the point is that your agreement with someone to a point is not invalidated by a disagreement either beyond that point or on another issue.
It's a bit more challenging when you agree with the actual thrust of the philosophy though, right?

(like appreciating a bit of white exceptionalism, vs actual white supremacists)
 
It's a bit more challenging when you agree with the actual thrust of the philosophy though, right?

(like appreciating a bit of white exceptionalism, vs actual white supremacists)
i'll need you to clarify the difference.

edit: there isn't even a wikipedia article for the former.

edit2: might be because i'm not using google, i'll check again

edit3: yea no google's not giving me much.
 
i'll need you to clarify the difference.

edit: there isn't even a wikipedia article for the former.

edit2: might be because i'm not using google, i'll check again

edit3: yea no google's not giving me much.
My point was that believing in something that just happens to be one of the defining principles of white supremacy is a bit of an issue. It's not a irrelevance like Hitler's vegetarianism
 
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