Is the end of Battery EVs coming?

Greebo said:
Lease prices have dropped by up to £400 per month over the last few months on £70k-£80k cars. Less for cheaper cars. Finally. Lease prices had got ridiculous and way out of hand.
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I've got one eye on the Pistonheads lease deals thread, some really tasty deals coming up lately.

There were some ID Buzz campers for like £300/month. Mental.
 
Fascinating - and amusing - debate above.

I'm going to get my first ever EV this spring, once I've passed my new job's probation and the salary sacrifice deals appear to me.

I have good off-street parking and charging options, don't do many miles, so it seems a perfect move. Ditching an ICE Golf GTI for probably a Tesla Y.

Can't wait, they are so fast, quiet, smooth, and relaxing to drive.

I'm in for EVs and am a firm believer that the charging infrastructure will eventually be sufficient in this country and EVs will dominate.

Anyone unable to run one because of charging issues can just stick to petrol hybrids.
 
A few posts back about Toyota being behind, are they not developing/ testing solid state battery's?
It feels like a jump to next level of tech is inevitable at some point, if it is them or someone else.
 
Diddums said:
Someone disagrees with the party line?

No offence dude but your inability to participate in conversations without making yourself look like an absolute melt isn't new, you've been doing it for as long as I've been on these boards at least, who know how much longer.

So no, it's not someone "disagreeing with the party line" it's just you being you. Nothing more, nothing less. Own it at least.

You're literally a meme on these boards, people actually coined the term Lolnasher just for you, but somehow it's everyone else?

Come on man.
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Not really, just you and 3-4 other chums who pretty much troll and derail threads all the time. It's as if it's one person using multiple accounts.
 
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I respect Harry Metcalfe and his work. Most of us would like the choice to have what suits us, problem is you have the 2 extremes, the Evangelists and the anti EV flat earthers. They scream the loudest and we have the poo show of misinformation we have now.

Harry does make me laugh though, needed a sensible family chariot, so it had to be a really cheap RRS.
 
Diddums said:
Someone disagrees with the party line?

No offence dude but your inability to participate in conversations without making yourself look like an absolute melt isn't new, you've been doing it for as long as I've been on these boards at least, who know how much longer.

So no, it's not someone "disagreeing with the party line" it's just you being you. Nothing more, nothing less. Own it at least.

You're literally a meme on these boards, people actually coined the term Lolnasher just for you, but somehow it's everyone else?

Come on man.
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I think technically it was Lolscorza first.
He had plenty of hot takes on the Eu and stuff. And had a love of NZ butter
But the same cap fits.

Some people just get stuck in time, they think everything from that precise timeline is the best.
Often around cars.
The sorts who say spectacularly dumb things like "the real car enthusiasts" are the ones who buy second hand cars only after complaining that the people who buy them new spec the "wrong options"
 
Mercenary Keyboard Warrior said:
Some people just get stuck in time, they think everything from that precise timeline is the best.
Often around cars.
The sorts who say spectacularly dumb things like "the real car enthusiasts" are the ones who buy second hand cars only after complaining that the people who buy them new spec the "wrong options"
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This attitude is hilariously prevalent in the motorcycling community too. The second someone says they bought an electric bike on a motorcycling facebook group, the old farts all come out of the woodwork with YOU'LL NEED TO PRY MY V-TWIN OUT OF MY COLD DEAD HANDS and LOUD PIPES SAVE LIVES and all the other tired old tropes, as if someone's threatening to take all their toys away and replace it with an electric bike.

Very narrow minded people, and I find that the further North you go, the worse it gets.
 
Diddums said:
This attitude is hilariously prevalent in the motorcycling community too. The second someone says they bought an electric bike on a motorcycling facebook group, the old farts all come out of the woodwork with YOU'LL NEED TO PRY MY V-TWIN OUT OF MY COLD DEAD HANDS and LOUD PIPES SAVE LIVES and all the other tired old tropes, as if someone's threatening to take all their toys away and replace it with an electric bike.

Very narrow minded people, and I find that the further North you go, the worse it gets.
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Ironically can you not see how narrowminded this view point is?
 
Bug One said:
This is a very good. Shows you the challenges of nuclear power and what's being built right now.

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Well yes, the REAL problem is actually over population. (but that is the ultimate taboo subject).
It's actually the rich that create the majority of the CO2 production per head, the poor are merely trying to survive.
If we actually 'just stopped oil' it would plunge us back into the dark ages (literally) it just isn't an option.
Sadly nuclear is the only real way of providing power for an ever increasing world population, the other solution would be WW3 which may be on its way.
EVs may be the answer, ultimately once nuclear batteries become available.
 
Manbatius said:
A few posts back about Toyota being behind, are they not developing/ testing solid state battery's?
It feels like a jump to next level of tech is inevitable at some point, if it is them or someone else.
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Exactly, it's pretty ingenuous to tag them as 'always been anti EV'.

Toyota is a giant in the automotive industry and a massive part of their market will be ICE / Hybrid for some time yet. I can't claim to be particularly well travelled but my work has taken me to South Africa, Kenya, Oman and Saudi and the number of Toyota's on the road there compared to everything else was notable. That said my last few trips to the middle east it seems that the Korean manufacturers are seriously gaining ground.

Jonnycoupe summed it up nicely, dice being rolled and the bigger the player the bigger the stake you can make... or the wider the spread you can afford to put on the table at once.

I'm not invested in any way so it's quite interesting to sit back and see how things develop.
 
Nasher said:
Not really, just you and 3-4 other chums who pretty much troll and derail threads all the time. It's as if it's one person using multiple accounts.
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I rarely even bother posting anymore, its that toxic on here.
The wheels seem to be falling off the rEVolution far faster than I had dared to even imagine. It's hilarious.
 
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