ISIL, ISIS, Daesh discussion thread.

I can assure you i'm far more educated than you. All be it in the scientific field and seeming the historic field as well.

Just because America is buying Oil it does not make Saudi Arabia spread their Wahhabi ways, they could invest it other ways other than their pathetic extremist ways. Heck Saudi Arabia are that bad ISIS even use their education books for their schools to spread hate...

Oh dear.
 
Wow,that childish meme of Assad. You're a lovely person aren't you? The very link you posted:

Seven-year-old Bana Alabed, who has gathered thousands of Twitter followers with her tweets from Aleppo, said on Sunday that her home in the east of the city had been bombed.

Another sick and deluded forum member who advocates the bombing of innocents. Hey, those barbarians need rule with an iron fist though right?
 
So that makes it ok? Saw a really upsetting video of rescuers pulling a boy alive out of rubble on fb. Stopped when I realised what it was but half his skull was hanging off. It was horrific and he was one of hundreds if not thousands of children killed/maimed in such a way. Before anyone says it, yes adult deaths are just as bad but kids have zero choice in where they've ended up.

Assad needs to be dragged before the Hague. Rather than give up power when it was obvious huge swathes of the country wanted him and his family out he's dug in like a tick and allowed it to spiral out of control into this bloodbath. Remember the demonstrations started peacefully until the army was ordered in. Could well have had a true democracy there by now.
Oh, for those that think Syria is a democracy. A one party state is NOT one anymore than North Korea is.

You're debating with an Assad fan. I mean look, he's posting photos of him laughing. Do you expect a reasoned response? He lives in lala land.

What's pathetic is, these kind of people only spout such guff because it bolsters their anti-west rhetoric. That's all they want, they don't care about actual reason. That mindset is easy when you're sat in the comfort of your armchair at home. I doubt this view would be held if he actually lived over there, or had family affected by all this.
 
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Aww, look at the resident dictators, championing the wiping out of countries and whole peoples.

Yes, death to everyone I disagree with. Just like the Nazis did and isil do now.
 
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so I call you out and you resort to an ad hominem attack?

really?

Wahhabism is the issue - notice how the mass media is not reporting the destruction of Islamic sites in yemen. why? well boris hit the nail on the head.

wait until the great mosque of sa`naa is bombed by the Saudi`s.

oh and they have Pakistani nukes already and a Chinese system to deliver them

You called me out? No, what you did was try to pick a fight stating I just criticise peoples opinions. Well excuse me when those opinions are "wipe out the Saudis... and Israelis why we're at it" and I criticise them for that. Funny you should take issue with me, don't you have any criticism of people with that kind of attitude? It would appear not, hence the circle jerk comment.
 
anyone caught funding isis by the saudis will be charged for funding terrorism.

the isis caliphate wants to rule saudi.

there is no evidence to support this tin foil hat theory of yours.

There isn't any point in debating the matter.

Let the fantasists revel in so called evidence (press.tv and RT links... I know right?!). Some people are just so wrapped up in the war of words between media outlets, they fail to see they're just part of this media whirlwind of regurgitating opinion (BS). That's all it is, opinion... Oh and some absurd CT!

One thing's for sure, it must be frustrating being so emotionally vested in something, them having such strong opinion. Yet that opinion having absolutely no real bearing on the matter at all.
 
Then do explain why ISIS is so heavily funded then?

Am i to believe the Turks didn't/don't buy their oil?

I fail to see the point you're trying to make. It's clear the Turks and pretty much everyone for that matter have been buying their oil. As their main source of funding, oil smuggling has been on a massive scale. So what? Private traders will buy whatever they want at the cheapest price. Do we bomb all those too?

You're another one trying to establish that there is some massive government conspiracy whereby the West is going out to fund isil. The reality is it's brokers looking to make a quick buck. You're also ignoring the numerous other ways isil fund themselves, such as taxation and ransom. These facts get in the way of your CT though, so we'll forget about those won't we?
 
Tell me, will you believe everything the Trump Press officer says at the White House Podium?

No but I bet you'll carry on quoting Putin statements as if they're the gospel truth ;)

tony blair and bush created isis

This is why most people discount anything you ever post.

If we had not invaded a country for the lols, then no ISIS would not need to have existed.

So in effect it is directly because of the war, as it destroyed all power in the country and it hardly helped that some of the old Iraqi military joined up.

So don't just fling it off like its not our fault they exist, because its "complex". After all the US has been meddling there for decades https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_activities_in_Iraq, but nah, we only had a tiny involvement eh?

This is just a short sighted view. I've said it over before, this is just another phase of the sunni-shia war. If it wasn't ISIL it would be something else. You ought to stop looking at things in absolutes. Yes, the west triggered another part of the continuing hostilities but no, the west didn't go about creating ISIL, like it was an intention. In any case, so what??? What is the fallout? Who holds who accountable? What's the repercussion? What are YOU going to be able to do about it?
 
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