ISIL, ISIS, Daesh discussion thread.

scorza · 16 Feb 2016 at 13:31

sven256 said:
Are you so dumb you Don't even know who is fighting where?

ISIS are fighting around Aleppo, Al nusra are also there as well as numerous other wonderful terrorists.

In fact ISIS have jsut been cleared out of the thermal power plant in Aleppo.

Here's a map that should help you with your geography homework.

Azaz and Maarat al-Numan were where the four hospitals were - not in Islamic State territory.

sven256 said:
You still can not get into your head there are next to NO moderate rebels in Syria. One of the groups Turkey request to go to the peace talks and might i add went. Were putting non sunni civilians in cages and putting them at strategic sites.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...aged-pro-Assad-captives-as-human-shields.html There are one of your moderate rebel groups Jaish al-Islam

Not good at all, but compared to what the Russian-backed Assad regime is doing - they're angels. (P.S. that's a Guardian link - I challenge you to accuse The Guardian of being a western propaganda mouthpiece

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sven256 · 16 Feb 2016 at 13:35

scorza said:
Here's a map that should help you with your geography homework.

Azaz and Maarat al-Numan were where the four hospitals were - not in Islamic State territory.

Not good at all, but compared to what the Russian-backed Assad regime is doing - they're angels. (P.S. that's a Guardian link - I challenge you to accuse The Guardian of being a western propaganda mouthpiece )

And would you like to point out where i said ISIS were at the hospitals?

I stated Al nusra were active in that region NOT ISIS

To quote myself "These "hospitals" are know to just be treating the "moderate" rebels such as al-Nusra."

I stated ISIS had just been cleared out of a thermal power plant in Aleppo.

So geography and reading are not your strong points...

Heck the BBC are that bad they can not even Label the groups correctly these days The Kurds and their allies now go by SDF and have never been known as the Kurdish militia.

scorza · 16 Feb 2016 at 13:41

sven256 said:
And would you like to point out where i said ISIS were at the hospitals?

I stated Al nusra were active in that region NOT ISIS

To quote myself "These "hospitals" are know to just be treating the "moderate" rebels such as al-Nusra."

I stated ISIS had just been cleared out of a thermal power plant in Aleppo.

So geography and reading are not your strong points...

If you're going to claim you never said something then it's probably a good idea to edit your last post when you actually said what you're now denying. With that level of competence you could probably actually be an FSB agent in Putin's Russia

sven256 said:
ISIS are fighting around Aleppo

Putting inverted commas around the word 'hospitals' doesn't change what they are.

sven256 · 16 Feb 2016 at 13:48

scorza said:
If you're going to claim you never said someth

ing then it's probably a good idea to edit your last post when you actually said what you're now denying. With that level of competence you could probably actually be an FSB agent in Putin's Russia

Putting inverted commas around the word 'hospitals' doesn't change what they are.

Where did i say ISIS were around that area?

You are just making yourself look like a fool if you can not show me were?

Quote me and prove that i said ISIS were in that area..

About the closest I said was groups with similar ideology's to ISIS.

The only thing i edited on my previous post was the part at the bottom which was added in.

"Heck the BBC are that bad they can not even Label the groups correctly these days The Kurds and their allies now go by SDF and have never been known as the Kurdish militia."

All my other posts are unedited so please go right ahead and quote me...

Harlequin · 16 Feb 2016 at 13:50

doesn't matter who the hospitals are treating - if they are only treating wounded then bombing them is a war crime. doesn't matter what outin or assad say - that's the definition of the Geneva convention which putin`s predecessors signed up to.

if he wants to ignore them - he should simply remove Russia`s signature and leave.

at that point we`ll see a whole new level of warfare

sven256 · 16 Feb 2016 at 13:55

Harlequin said:
doesn't matter who the hospitals are treating - if they are only treating wounded then bombing them is a war crime. doesn't matter what outin or assad say - that's the definition of the Geneva convention which putin`s predecessors signed up to.

if he wants to ignore them - he should simply remove Russia`s signature and leave.

at that point we`ll see a whole new level of warfare

But you are still making the assumption that Russia did it. And as i said earlier, from what I have read these facilities were not clearly labelled as hospitals.

Straight from the horses mouth

http://www.********.com/view?i=396_1455615002

If effect they do not have a clue as some people reported air strikes some people reported shelling.

scorza · 16 Feb 2016 at 13:56

sven256 said:
Where did i say ISIS were around that area?

You are just making yourself look like a fool if you can not show me were?

Quote me and prove that i said ISIS were in that area..

About the closest I said was groups with similar ideology's to ISIS.

The only thing i edited on my previous post was the part at the bottom which was added in.

"Heck the BBC are that bad they can not even Label the groups correctly these days The Kurds and their allies now go by SDF and have never been known as the Kurdish militia."

All my other posts are unedited so please go right ahead and quote me...

I already have done lol - see my post above. Whose making a fool out of who here?

sven256 · 16 Feb 2016 at 14:04

scorza said:
I already have done lol - see my post above. Whose making a fool out of who here?

Where have you done?

And i stand by exactly what i have said.

Unless you are being an idiot and meaning the entire Aleppo province, in which case again i would be correct as ISIS are in Aleppo province. Clearly i was referring to the city of Aleppo and the town of Maarat al-Numan and Azaz as independent places.

Quote me where i said ISIS were fighting around the "hospitals"

Harlequin · 16 Feb 2016 at 14:16

sven256 said:
But you are still making the assumption that Russia did it. And as i said earlier, from what I have read these facilities were now clearly labelled as hospitals.

Straight from the horse mouth

http://www.********.com/view?i=396_1455615002

If effect they do not have a clue as some people reported air strikes some people reported shelling.

again you need to re read what I have put;

I did not say who attacked the hospital - I am saying it was a hospital being used exclusively for the treatment of the wounded. it doesn't matter what putin or assad are saying , s attacking the hospital is a war crime.

who is spouting all the FUD on the media about it. someone attacked the hospital - yet putin and assad are basically shrugging their shoulders and saying `so what`.

hitler never did that - not directly and exclusively attack hospitals.

scorza · 16 Feb 2016 at 14:33

sven256 said:
Where have you done?

And i stand by exactly what i have said.

Unless you are being an idiot and meaning the entire Aleppo province, in which case again i would be correct as ISIS are in Aleppo province. Clearly i was referring to the city of Aleppo and the town of Maarat al-Numan and Azaz as independent places.

Quote me where i said ISIS were fighting around the "hospitals"

I quote again :rolleyes:

sven256 said:
ISIS are fighting around Aleppo

Why don't you put your shovel down and just admit that you were wrong, you don't have a clue what you're talking about, and your boy Putin is doing things in Syria a million times worse than the US has done in Afghan/Iraq?

sven256 · 16 Feb 2016 at 14:42

scorza said:
I quote again

Why don't you put your shovel down and just admit that you were wrong, you don't have a clue what you're talking about, and your boy Putin is doing things in Syria a million times worse than the US has done in Afghan/Iraq?

I don't understand where i'm wrong? I can only see where you are wrong.

ISIS are fighting in Aleppo which is 100% fact. It was you that stated they were not.

I also stated ISIS were no where near the hospitals which is 100% fact.

So where have i got any of my information wrong? The only person who seems to have any incorrect information is you. I think you are confusing Aleppo and Aleppo province, which is understandable for you.

scorza · 16 Feb 2016 at 14:55

sven256 said:
ISIS are fighting around Aleppo

sven256 said:
Where did i say ISIS were around that area?

...

Quote me and prove that i said ISIS were in that area..

sven256 said:
ISIS are fighting in Aleppo which is 100% fact. It was you that stated they were not.

Keep going though, at some point you're bound to stumble on a coherent position.

McGray · 16 Feb 2016 at 15:00

I think I can clear this up, are the Hospitals in/around Aleppo?

sven256 · 16 Feb 2016 at 15:05

scorza said:
Keep going though, at some point you're bound to stumble on a coherent position.

So what is incorrect about my post?

ISIS are Aleppo city.

ISIS are not in all of Aleppo province.

I don't understand where you are coming from.

As you clearly stated ISIS were not in Aleppo and that the SAA/ Russia were not fighting them which is 100% false. Would you like me to quote your post stating this to make you look like more of a fool?

sven256 · 16 Feb 2016 at 15:06

McGray said:
I think I can clear this up, are the Hospitals in/around Aleppo?

Aleppo province yes, Aleppo city no.

But when you distinguished between these in a post you expect people to understand, have a basic level of intellect or actually understand the conflict.

Tuppy_Glossop · 16 Feb 2016 at 15:13

According to the BBC two hosptals in Azaz (Aleppo province) and two hospitals in Maarat al-Numan (Idlib province) were hit.

Harlequin · 16 Feb 2016 at 15:15

the hospitals that were bombed were in northern Syria

the first in the town of Azaz up `near` the Turkish border , 20 miles north west from Aleppo and within a mile or 2 of the border. so genuinely who can say who bombed it as Turkey are shelling *insert random name* Kurd group.

but the second could not have been shelled by turkey : its situated in Maaret al-Numan in Idlib province - some 50 miles south of Aleppo , inside of `rebel` area, which does lend credence to it being bombed by either Syria or Russian forces, its not in a daesh zone and the west are avoiding non daesh area`s.

scorza · 16 Feb 2016 at 15:17

sven256 said:
So what is incorrect about my post?

ISIS are Aleppo city.

ISIS are not in all of Aleppo province.

I don't understand where you are coming from.

As you clearly stated ISIS were not in Aleppo and that the SAA/ Russia were not fighting them which is 100% false. Would you like me to quote your post stating this to make you look like more of a fool?

My emphasis. Not according to wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleppo Are you getting mixed up with Raqqa?

sven256 · 16 Feb 2016 at 15:24

scorza said:
My emphasis. Not according to wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleppo Are you getting mixed up with Raqqa?

No i'm 100% correct

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Syrian_Civil_War_detailed_map

Amnesia · 16 Feb 2016 at 15:27

sven256 said:
Are you so dumb you Don't even know who is fighting where?

ISIS are fighting around Aleppo, Al nusra are also there as well as numerous other wonderful terrorists.

In fact ISIS have jsut been cleared out of the thermal power plant in Aleppo.

You still can not get into your head there are next to NO moderate rebels in Syria. One of the groups Turkey request to go to the peace talks and might i add went. Were putting non sunni civilians in cages and putting them at strategic sites.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...aged-pro-Assad-captives-as-human-shields.html There are one of your moderate rebel groups Jaish al-Islam

What a lovely bunch they are. We best get some supplies to them incase they run out of money for cages.