ISIL, ISIS, Daesh discussion thread.

scorza said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-35807689



Funny I don't remember Islamic State being defeated - in fact don't they control more land in Syria now than before the Russian airstrikes started? Mission accomplished Vlad?
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I thought his mission was to suport assad against the rebals and theyve made a lot of ground against them.

So he can happily leave the west to smash isis and for assad to just roll in once theyre gone.

Why bother to do it yourself when the weat will fight your war for you
 
Tefal said:
I thought his mission was to suport assad against the rebals and theyve made a lot of ground against them.

So he can happily leave the west to smash isis and for assad to just roll in once theyre gone.

Why bother to do it yourself when the weat (Wheat?) will fight your war for you
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I just love the Freudian slips that spell checkers can generate! :p
 
scorza said:
Like I said, I already have done and couldn't see where you blew the evidence out of the water. Here's my original post about the Russian engineers working in Islamic State controlled facilities: https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=29174627&postcount=5011
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Try reading a few posts past that link

Also the source should be enough to make you laugh in your article alone

Syrian regime and the Islamic State persist. According to Turkish officials and Syrian rebels

scorza said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-35816552

BBC have included a map showing the areas where IS have gained and lost territory since January 2015. As we can clearly see they have lost territory where the US airstrikes have been taking place, and have gained territory where Russian dumb-bombing has been happening.

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I know you have probably never done a day of science in you entire life.

Try to use some level of analysis. The map you posted there is from the BBC so garbage anyway. It takes account from January the 1st 2015 when ISIS were still making large gains is is not really valid data when taking into account Russian air strikes only started right at the very end of September 2015.

There are many maps comparing gains and losses from October 2015 to today's date, which will show heavy losses for all terrorist organisations. You are also aware the the Russians are also supporting the SDF advances? (probably not).

Does that map also contradict you previous statement of of "The simple fact is that the only effective air force in theatre are the western ones - hence the IS losses in Iraq" when in reality most of the losses have come from inside Syria.
 
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The map illustrates geographical land mass and not numbers of losses so it's pretty much an invalid point. Ramadi and Mosul have a high concentration of ISIL fighters so number of losses would be highly concentrated there.
 
sven256 said:
Try reading a few posts past that link
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Already did, your claim doesn't hold up to scrutiny unsurprisingly. I'm guessing by now you've had a look and can't find what you think you posted so are resorting to the old Russian tactic of Maskirova - deny everything even in the face of overwhelming evidence :D

sven256 said:
Also the source should be enough to make you laugh in your article alone

Syrian regime and the Islamic State persist. According to Turkish officials and Syrian rebels






I know you have probably never done a day of science in you entire life.

Try to use some level of analysis. The map you posted there is from the BBC so garbage anyway. It takes account from January the 1st 2015 when ISIS were still making large gains is is not really valid data when taking into account Russian air strikes only started right at the very end of September 2015.

There are many maps comparing gains and losses from October 2015 to today's date, which will show heavy losses for all terrorist organisations. You are also aware the the Russians are also supporting the SDF advances? (probably not).

Does that map also contradict you previous statement of of "The simple fact is that the only effective air force in theatre are the western ones - hence the IS losses in Iraq" when in reality most of the losses have come from inside Syria.
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The US-led airstrikes have concentrated in the north of Syria to support Kurdish peshmerga - hence why you see the losses there. The Russian dumb-bombing has mainly been in the west of the country - particularly around Aleppo province, where Islamic State has made its gains.
 
scorza said:
Already did, your claim doesn't hold up to scrutiny unsurprisingly. I'm guessing by now you've had a look and can't find what you think you posted so are resorting to the old Russian tactic of Maskirova - deny everything even in the face of overwhelming evidence :D



The US-led airstrikes have concentrated in the north of Syria to support Kurdish peshmerga - hence why you see the losses there. The Russian dumb-bombing has mainly been in the west of the country - particularly around Aleppo province, where Islamic State has made its gains.
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Wow, just wow
 
What does everyone make of the documents now being published showing officially that Turkey has been in total support in terms of oil purchase, weapons, food, shelter, medical aid and safe passage to ISIS?

Will NATO now eject Turkey? Are we going to hear more about how Turkey and likely the US spy agencies are or have had a hand in the murders of journalists?
 
RaohNS said:
What does everyone make of the documents now being published showing officially that Turkey has been in total support in terms of oil purchase, weapons, food, shelter, medical aid and safe passage to ISIS?

Will NATO now eject Turkey? Are we going to hear more about how Turkey and likely the US spy agencies are or have had a hand in the murders of journalists?
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Which documents are these? Mind you not surprised the oil was going over the Turkish border. Someone had to be buying it!

US spy agencies killing journalists though, really? Where's this come from? Thought the Russians had a monopoly on silencing journalists with a bullet.
 
Washout said:
Which documents are these? Mind you not surprised the oil was going over the Turkish border. Someone had to be buying it!

US spy agencies killing journalists though, really? Where's this come from? Thought the Russians had a monopoly on silencing journalists with a bullet.
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Maybe not directly themselves but surely having a hand in it. Russia is far from the only country silencing reporters we all know that. The methods are two sides of the same coin.

Have a look on RT or search em on google and avoid the mainstream.
 
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