Possibly, but ISIS are still searching for Red Mercury, so i wouldn't worry too much..............
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/hunt-red-m...after-mythical-nuclear-bomb-substance-1529789
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Possibly, but ISIS are still searching for Red Mercury, so i wouldn't worry too much..............
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/hunt-red-m...after-mythical-nuclear-bomb-substance-1529789
Red Mercury is tin foil hat tosh. IS are running around with guns and tanks and that will get them killed eventually. These muppets have high ambition but no acquisition. They lack the state built technology to fight effectively. I give them a few years playing soldier in the desert before they are eradicated. Their caliphate is a pipe dream.
All of that are true, but they've shown to be effective at terrorism. What do you think will happen to those Jihadists after their supposed "state" fails... They'll run away and become do terrorist attacks here and there.
This is what i agree with, a bunch of muppets for the most part with weapons to kill people, but when the ISIS leaders are destroyed wherever they are in the middle east\world we are still going to have to deal with what follows, there are probably 100's if not 1000's that are already brainwashed especially in the EU, are they going to keep doing this until they either all kill themselves along with a lot of innocents or locked up?
Even if ISIS as we know them in the ME are destroyed by the end of the year we have still possibly got another 5-10 years of dealing with the nutters that are left spread about everywhere.
Also, these different terrorist groups have seemed to evolve\expand or reboot themselves over atleast the past 25 years every time they are on the brink of being wiped out or are close to.
What happens if\when the same thing happens again, but we get a worse Islamic extremist group (hard to be worse than ISIS, I know) with new agendas and motives?
I also mentioned the same in my last post, it seems nobody (media) have touched this subject, all we hear is defeat ISIS in Syria\Iraq and all will be rosy and peaceful.
I dont think so.
Thats the problem. Many brain washed idiots on the loose around the world wrapped up in the extremist views.
They need to be annihilated asap. Its seems to me that the world is dragging its feet. Deliberately maybe?
With all the power the allies have you think they would have squashed out the last of daesh by now!
They need to be annihilated asap. Its seems to me that the world is dragging its feet. Deliberately maybe?
With all the power the allies have you think they would have squashed out the last of daesh by now!
Yes, i have been thinking that for a while, it is like no rush lads, we have got X years left so take your time killing the scum, which has also lead me to partly believe that a lot of all these attacks have got a turn a blind eye attitude about them at the moment and i dont think it will take many more of the attacks and the shambles security we have seen since the Paris attacks for more of the population to start thinking it also.
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Correct.
There will always be terrorist groups but, these idiots need to be stopped NOW! Enough pussy footing around! Enough crap!
I believe the governments could have wiped them out but refuse to do so! They have their own agenda! Lives are being lost because of GREED!
Enough!!
Wipe out those islamic extremist scumbags!
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The problem the West have at the moment is propaganda.
IS want the West to come and 'annihilate' them. It plays in to their propaganda and legitimises their way of thinking.
This is why I was happy that Russia was going in to actually do something as I know the UN/Nato and the US are reluctant as they don't want to fuel the IS propaganda machine.
The problem is the longer IS actually have a country to call home the worst these terrorist attacks will be.
However even if they manage to dissolve the Islamic State and it goes back to Iraqi and Syrian government control all those Jihadis will just disperse around the globe and just create underground cells a bit like Al Qaeda did. However this scenario I think is a lesser evil to the Islamic State.
It seems to be just getting worse.
For me we are in this scenario for two reasons:
1. Taking out the Taliban in Afghanistan
2. Taking down Saddam Hussein <he was evil>
Both of these actions caused a vacuum in power and further legitimised the propaganda and ill feeling towards the West.
The only saving grace is that Iran are not on the same side as IS. If they were, IS would have a huge ally and access to nuclear material and weapons.
IS want the West to come and 'annihilate' them. It plays in to their propaganda and legitimises their way of thinking.
This is why I was happy that Russia was going in to actually do something as I know the UN/Nato and the US are reluctant as they don't want to fuel the IS propaganda machine.
The problem is the longer IS actually have a country to call home the worst these terrorist attacks will be.
However even if they manage to dissolve the Islamic State and it goes back to Iraqi and Syrian government control all those Jihadis will just disperse around the globe and just create underground cells a bit like Al Qaeda did. However this scenario I think is a lesser evil to the Islamic State.
It seems to be just getting worse.
For me we are in this scenario for two reasons:
1. Taking out the Taliban in Afghanistan
2. Taking down Saddam Hussein <he was evil>
Both of these actions caused a vacuum in power and further legitimised the propaganda and ill feeling towards the West.
The only saving grace is that Iran are not on the same side as IS. If they were, IS would have a huge ally and access to nuclear material and weapons.
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Oops quoted my self!! 
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We've been there now for about as long as Vietnam.
There is no will to have another 2 or 3 decades fighting in the desert.
People dont want any more coffins drapped in flags for the sake of people who when we take them in commit rape, crime and terror attacks in our countries.
Its reached the point where for most the answer is just let them kill each other like the primitive savages they are.
The west is weary of war
They've far from randomly run around aimlessly with tanks and guns though - while their command structure and effectiveness has slowly been broken down early on they were utilising advanced techniques and tactics (i.e. stuff perfected by the long range desert group - which tends to indicate well read and practised commanders) to stay mobile and effective and even now they are limiting the rate of attrition by trying to avoid getting caught in numbers in a hard confrontation - typically the ISIS defence of somewhere like Palmyra will be IEDs and a small number of suicide bombers and snipers while the main bulk of their forces melted away.
Bingo, I said this in the deleted thread, we took out one psycho and all the rest of the psychos he controlled run riot to this day and it is getting worse.
So as recent history has shown who follows ISIS once they are took down?
In my opinion a new bunch of crazy leaders will start elsewhere in the ME\NA and all the ISIS followers around the world will return\follow them.
All in the name of religion of course.
Tin foil scenario:
It does seem strange that the west are dragging their feet getting to grips with ISIS, wherever they are, now Obama does not want to send troops\go all out in the middle east, so the west is doing just enough to stop them getting larger territory etc.
Obama steps down near the end of the year, Trump has been getting huge publicity and support in the US setting out who he is going to get rid of around the world and dealing with ISIS therefore more and more support for military action from the the US population.
So we are left with a situation where a large portion of the US support sending in the troops to annihilate ISIS wherever they are and whoever else gets in their way.
Whoever then gets in the white house (Republican or Democrats) will have the support of the public because of Trump.
It does seem strange that the west are dragging their feet getting to grips with ISIS, wherever they are, now Obama does not want to send troops\go all out in the middle east, so the west is doing just enough to stop them getting larger territory etc.
Obama steps down near the end of the year, Trump has been getting huge publicity and support in the US setting out who he is going to get rid of around the world and dealing with ISIS therefore more and more support for military action from the the US population.
So we are left with a situation where a large portion of the US support sending in the troops to annihilate ISIS wherever they are and whoever else gets in their way.
Whoever then gets in the white house (Republican or Democrats) will have the support of the public because of Trump.
Yes non stick, i agree with you
Until a reformation of Islam begins there probably won't be a conclusion to hostilities at any point in our lifetime.
I see the necessity in us dedicating ground forces but I don't want to admit that either. Needless to say we will probably be redirecting our air operations to certain African countries before long anyway.
I see the necessity in us dedicating ground forces but I don't want to admit that either. Needless to say we will probably be redirecting our air operations to certain African countries before long anyway.