ISIL, ISIS, Daesh discussion thread.
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Caporegime
That's not answering the question but how much progression or freedom have the Syrian people enjoyed under the Assad regime? I'm feeling lenient, so I'll allow you to exclude the civil war period so you don't need to worry about the barrel bombs.
Soldato
It made me laugh where the Russians basically said, we are bombing IS today, you might want to steer clear of the Syrian Air Space. 
Problem is, you have to choose from the factions that exist, not from those you'd like to exist.
There is no faction in Syria that will bring peace and prosperity to all, overnight. A lot have said that Assad was more progressive than his father, at the very least. In fact his supporters even accuse him of being a soft touch, compared to his father.
Progress in Syria will take a long time, no doubt. But it will go backwards under an islamic regime.
What other choice is there, realistically? You want us to depose Assad, and replace him with who, exactly?
Caporegime
So Russia has bombed Homs, which isn't held by the Islamic State.
Soldato
You can bet most of what you own they aren't only bombing Isis either. They'll target opposition rebels first, and any Isis who are stupid enough to interrupt.
The situation is now highly dangerous. We now have the West and Russia in active military conflict zones with oposing interests.
Russian parliament unanimously approves use of military in Syria to fight ISIS.
About time
Isis aren't in Homs.
Caporegime
WW3 confirmed
I love the fact that Fox news tries to paint him as the new Hitler/Stalin type when he's actually a London eye doctor who was forced to go home and inherit a country due to family deaths lol.
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US Defense Official: #Russia asked US to avoid #Syria airspace during its new anti #ISIS flights but US won't alter ops in any way
Caporegime
Why do we have to choose anyone? Sometimes doing nothing is OK.
Dropping barrel bombs doesn't really sound like the behavior of a "progressive" leader to me tbh.
Various sources agree he's now more popular then ever, among his own people (not the foreign jihadis that make up a large % of the rebel forces).
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/james-coe/bashar-assad_b_8096556.html
It's also funny how pretty much all ME governments have ruled with a strong arm. And how when they're removed, these places almost always dissolve into chaos. Tribal conflict and ethnic cleansing, etc. And then end up with new regimes that are just as oppressive, and a war-ravaged country (only now their country's most lucrative resources belong to western contractors). We've never actually helped matters when we've removed these people directly or supported insurgencies.
I guess this time it will be different. You know what they say, twelfth time's the charm!
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Russian aggression is what the west needs in syria, I wonder if the Americans gave russia the full go ahead to do whatever they like in syria via their back channels... Russia will do what the western public will not allow western governments to do....
Soldato
Who gives a monkey's what the UN says anyway. It's not like they have their own army to stop countries doing whatever the hell they want to anyway...
So the whole concept of international law is made a mockery when you have sufficient force to do what you want
At least we can stop pretending to be the world's moral authority.So the whole concept of international law is made a mockery when you have sufficient force to do what you want
Pretty much yes.