ISIL, ISIS, Daesh discussion thread.

Rroff said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-43686157

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/13/russia-military-threatens-action-against-the-us-in-syria.html

Chicken or the egg situation?
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Biggest false flag attack ever. Only a week ago, President Trump said he wanted to be out of Syria and was convinced to stay a little longer and now this gives a solid reason to stay. Oh, funny enough, today (tomorrow) is John Bolton first day as National Security Adviser, the guy who wanted to nuke North Korea and Iran.

This is on top that Assad is on the verge of victory and is destroying the terrorists and rebels on all sides. Makes no sense, especially at this late stage in the war.

There has been no ground attack following this "chemical attack" which makes no tactical sense.

Only few weeks ago, the Russian Foreign Minister Sergal Lavrov warned that the Syrian terrorists was planning to stage an chemcial attack to give the US-led coalition an reason to strike Damasus.
 
Rroff said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-43686157

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/13/russia-military-threatens-action-against-the-us-in-syria.html

Chicken or the egg situation?
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Desperate white helmet scum once again. Already exposed as liars and murderers several times yet still protected and lauded by NATO governments and media. You don't suddenly start not lying and murdering, when things are even more desperate.


Don't forget Bell Pottinger and their ilk. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_...anda_campaigns_on_behalf_of_government_bodies

John Bolton also threatened the children of the ex-director of the OPCW whom he wanted to resign. Lowest of the low. https://www.rt.com/usa/423477-bolton-threat-opcw-iraq/

Predictable event, indeed predicted by Russian military (who have absolutely no motive or need to use chemicals in Syria) because of their findings on the ground. But also predicted by analysts long ago who said that the trouble with falsely blaming Assad and Russia for every chemical attack, is that it will only encourage the fanatics like Daesh to carry out even more - some faked, some real.
 
Danny75 said:
Predictable event, indeed predicted by Russian military (who have absolutely no motive or need to use chemicals in Syria) because of their findings on the ground. But also predicted by analysts long ago who said that the trouble with falsely blaming Assad and Russia for every chemical attack, is that it will only encourage the fanatics like Daesh to carry out even more - some faked, some real.
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So true
 
It's humourous that the UN won't identify the attacker, but the US is quick to blame someone because the CIA is knee deep in **** with the "moderate" rebels.

The last thing they want is a repeat of the failures of Cuba, Iran and 9/11 (9/11 almost destroyed the agency apparently).
 
Russian and Syrian Air Forces are on Red Alert after Trumps latest tweets.

RuAF has a mission of SU-24M's flying in a low altitude over the Mediterranean Sea likely carrying an surveillance mission against the US Navy.

2 pairs of Su-30SM's are flying, plus a third ready for take off to replace the first pair from Hmeimim Airforce Base.

S-400 SAM batteries are on high alert too.
 
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Danny75 said:
(who have absolutely no motive or need to use chemicals in Syria)
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IronWarrior said:
This is on top that Assad is on the verge of victory and is destroying the terrorists and rebels on all sides. Makes no sense, especially at this late stage in the war.
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I'm not saying this was carried out or by Syria or Russia - but I've never bought that line of reasoning - neither Assad or Russia particularly care too much what the wider world thinks and both have form for this kind of thing, whether chemical weapons or the use of force or whatever, in situations where they don't "need" to.
 
IronWarrior said:
Mediterranean Sea likely carrying an surveillance mission against the US Navy.
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Getting to boiling point in that Eastern Med region.


The eastern Mediterranean Sea has become a very busy place, and pressure abounds among coastal neighbors there. Governments are declaring exclusive economic zones (EEZs), but they overlap. States are granting duplicate licenses for natural gas exploration and drilling. Mammoth energy corporations and coastal states are signing hundreds of millions of dollars' worth of hydrocarbon agreements. Frequent maritime safety broadcasts are informing of endless military exercises.

Israel and Lebanon are on edge over hydrocarbon reserves. Lebanon awarded bids last month to France’s Total SA, Italy’s Eni SpA and Russia’s Novatek to drill for oil and gas in Blocks 4 and 9 within Lebanon’s EEZ. Israel doesn’t recognize these bids and claims that all of Block 9 is within its EEZ.

Then there is the crisis between Turkey and Greek Cyprus, which is becoming progressively militarized. A tense military standoff took place Feb. 9 between the Turkish navy and Eni's Saipem 12000 drilling ship, which is licensed by the Greek Cypriot administration to explore hydrocarbon reserves south of the island. In my Al-Monitor Feb. 15 opinion piece “Tempers flare over gas exploration in Mediterranean,” I wrote, “Ankara thinks the tensions in the Aegean [Sea] and eastern Mediterranean Sea aren't coincidental. Ankara feels the natural gas alliance of Greece, Greek Cypriots, Israel and Egypt — being aware of the Turkish military's capacity shortcomings since the July 2016 coup attempt, its military involvement in Syria and its increasing isolation — is scheming for diplomatic, economic and military faits accomplis.” Ankara still believes that.

It's also no secret that there's a growing crisis between Egypt and Turkey over disputed EEZs.

This persistent tension among coastal neighbors makes one wonder if we are facing a new South China Sea crisis. The latest development in the eastern Mediterranean was the arrival March 6 of the US 6th Fleet’s Iwo Jima Amphibious Ready Group (ARG) to conduct naval operations.

Alarm bells sounded as its arrival coincided with scheduled hydrocarbon drillings of US energy giant ExxonMobil in Block 10 of the Greek Cypriot EEZ.

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Now the questions are whether the Iwo Jima ARG will remain in the eastern Mediterranean after its joint exercises with Israel, and if so how long will it stay? The ARG left Florida at the beginning of February on a seven-month mission and arrived in its area of operations Feb. 22.

This means the ARG can stay for six more months in the region if it desires. We will have to wait and see what Washington will decide.

https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/or...mediterranean-resembling-south-china-sea.html
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People have short memories, they forgot things so easy.

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I believe, I read a story a month ago that the SSA found a chemical workshop in the same area, about 20 minute car ride to Duma.

https://twitter.com/HadiNasrallah/status/973630463213436928

Here we go! Even has subtitles.
 
So last week Trump announces pulling troops out of Syria (who were never invited to the part and were technically invaders), Russia and Assad both wanted US forces out

Then this happens to keep US forces involved ?

Coincidence ?

It's almost like nefarious actors are pushing us towards another world war
 
IronWarrior said:
Russian and Syrian Air Forces are on Red Alert after Trumps latest tweets.

RuAF has a mission of SU-24M's flying in a low altitude over the Mediterranean Sea likely carrying an surveillance mission against the US Navy.

2 pairs of Su-30SM's are flying, plus a third ready for take off to replace the first pair from Hmeimim Airforce Base.

S-400 SAM batteries are on high alert too.
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What's the source for this?
 
Considering what they did last time, with blowing up an airbase, i imagine if the US tries it again, the Russians will shoot them down.

Sad days... with Trump at the helm and Bolton whispering in his ear of sweet nuclear fire, who knows.
 
StriderX said:
Considering what they did last time, with blowing up an airbase, i imagine if the US tries it again, the Russians will shoot them down.
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They only used TLAMs for that attack though, so if they do the same it will be interesting to see if the Russian's much vaunted AA systems could down a Tomahawk.

StriderX said:
Sad days... with Trump at the helm and Bolton whispering in his ear of sweet nuclear fire, who knows.
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Could be worse.

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I dunno, I feel Putin is at least honourable even if only by cold war standards (otherwise why not just launch all of his arsenal? He's not a madman). Trump and Bolton however are dumb and cruel jokes on the world.

He at least works within the realm of caring about his homeland in some regard, Trump pretends to.
 
StriderX said:
Considering what they did last time, with blowing up an airbase, i imagine if the US tries it again, the Russians will shoot them down.

Sad days... with Trump at the helm and Bolton whispering in his ear of sweet nuclear fire, who knows.
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It's getting to the point where I'm beginning to wonder what sort of news I'm going to wake up to in the mornings. Another cruise missile launch from the Med might lead to a serious escalation. Just Googled and it's a year on from the last time it occurred - give or take a couple of days.
 
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