ISIL, ISIS, Daesh discussion thread.

Rroff said:
The amount of heavy military hardware and manpower descending on Idlib from all directions is crazy - not quite sure how this is going to pan out or who is really aligned with whom, etc. heh - if it went down battle royale style it would be an absolute blood bath.
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During WW2 parents shipped their kids off to remote locations to avoid all this.(in the millions might I add)
Why is a similar operation not underway in these regions? We can take these kids and get them the hell out of there. I know there is call for a corridor to be set up but when its going to be a free for all I can understand the reluctance.

and if the reports of a million children in the area is correct, then honestly Syria and Russia really are going to have to think hard before assaulting.
 
iamtheoneneo said:
During WW2 parents shipped their kids off to remote locations to avoid all this.(in the millions might I add)
Why is a similar operation not underway in these regions? We can take these kids and get them the hell out of there. I know there is call for a corridor to be set up but when its going to be a free for all I can understand the reluctance.

and if the reports of a million children in the area is correct, then honestly Syria and Russia really are going to have to think hard before assaulting.
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because in ww2 we controlled the country with our kids in.

we couldn't force child evacuation until after we have invaded and taken control. pretty much all the sides on the ground want some nice cute looking women and children as human sheilds.

because they know if they weren't there the rest of the world would have no problem just flattening them all from a distance regardless of group affiliation.
 
Basically these Muslims know what kind of leader Mohammed really was and have no problem using women and children as human shields to preserve their own lives in a war they have already lost.

Bless them.
 
https://www.rt.com/news/437719-jerusalem-post-idf-censor/

IDF has forced the Jerusalem Post to remove its explosive report on the Israeli military giving weapons to the Syrian rebels, the newspaper’s managing editor confirmed to RT.
“We were told by the army’s military censor to remove that part of the story,” David Brinn, the managing editor of the Jerusalem Post told RT as he replied to a request for comment. The report, ‘IDF confirms: Israel provided light-weapons to Syrian rebels,’ which claimed that the Israeli military acknowledged for the first time that it had provided money, weapons and ammunition to the Syrian militants, was removed just hours after being published without any explanation.

According to Brinn, the story was removed “for security reasons evidently.” The IDF told RT that it would not comment on the issue.

The Jerusalem Post article was removed shortly after being published, but a version of the article can still be read using Google cache

It claimed that regular supplies of light weapons and ammunition to the Syrian militants holding the territories near the Israeli border were part of the Operation Good Neighbor, which Israel portrayed as a humanitarian mission, which was focused on providing Syrians with “food, clothes and fuel.”

Israel has been arming at least seven different armed groups in Syria’s Golan Heights, the report said. It also added that the Israeli military believed that providing weapons to the militants was “the right decision” as they sought to keep Hezbollah and Iran away from Israel’s Golan Heights by such means.

The deleted report comes on the heels of another major disclosure. On Monday, the IDF announced that Israel has carried out more than 200 strikes on Syrian targets in the past year and a half.
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Well that explains why the report got deleted, not the first time the IDF has done this, remember a while ago, they forced the BBC to change a headline.

If you missed it before, here is the link: https://webcache.googleusercontent....rovided-light-weapons-to-Syrian-rebels-566479
 
It's fine. As long as the ants continue to be stabbed, maimed, blown up, crushed, smeared under trucks, tortured and killed.

As long as the grasshoppers can keep doing what they are doing.
 
turkey won't let them in I bet, turkey doesn't want all the terrorists it was funding either

if murica doesn't want the attack on ldib to go ahead they could also offer all the "freedom fighters" they gave weapons to asylum or stfu
 
IronWarrior said:
This is what everyone has been expecting.
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Hence one of the reasons Turkey has moved a lot of military to the border and stuck up a giant concrete wall heh. Been talk of the offensive to start any time now for the last 10 days or so but they don't seem to be in any hurry even with preliminary softening up, etc. everyone seems to be waiting for more assets to get into position and generally not in a hurry unlike the offensive in the South where they were moving at pace by this point into the build up.
 
Skunkworks said:
It's happening daily all across Europe, but gets buried in local news as random street violence.
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Nothing to see here. This is why people - with any sense - distrust the legacy media. They lie by omission. The alternative news channels were reporting about migrant trouble weeks before they hit mainstream (and that was only because twitter was awash with it).

Heck alternative news reported boats working with people smugglers brining them into Europe a year before it was main stream. Now it is conveniently quiet on the actions of the NGOs still operating the same way.
 
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...d-and-funded-12-syrian-rebel-groups-1.6462729

Israel discreetly funded and armed at least 12 rebel groups in southern Syria in order to keep Iranian-backed militias and Islamic State fighters away from Israel's border, Foreign Policy magazine reported on Thursday.

Foreign Policy's Elizabeth Tsurkov interviewed more than two dozen members of the rebel groups, who reported that Israel's support took place in recent years and ended last month.

The weapons transfer, according to the report, included assault rifles, machine guns, mortar launchers and transport vehicles, all delivered through three border crossings – gates that connect the Golan Heights and Syria.

These crossings are the same ones through which Israel transferred humanitarian aid to Syria.

According to Tsurkov, Israel paid each rebel approximately 75 dollars per month, with additional money transfers for the groups to purchase weapons on Syria's black market.

When Bashar Assad's forces retook south Syria in July, rebel groups expected Israel to intervene, due to the support they had received, sources told Tsurkov. One fighter said: “This is a lesson we will not forget about Israel. It does not care about … the people. It does not care about humanity. All it cares about it its own interests.”
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They provided Assault Rifles, Machine Guns, Mortars and vehicles for transport to 12 groups, all to keep Iran and Hamas forces away from them.

That's what Israel will do and does do, same said for us and the Americans, we are happy to provide weapons and equipment to fight our proxy wars for us.
 
They are going to have to double down and fast if they want to keep a presence there - Syrian regime is gaining some traction with diplomatic moves with some of the factions under US sphere of influence there and military operations from SAA/Iran/Russia edging that way - kind of ill advised IMO as US has the assets in the region to quickly and decisively put the hammer down in a direct confrontation/threat to their presence on the ground (but over time even with indirect action it is going to erode the scale of US reach in the area).

Looks like things have turned into a bit of a stalemate over Idlib politically - I thought things had gone a bit too quiet - be interesting to see where it goes from here.

EDIT: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-45444276 so things still turning over politically :s
 
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Heard nothing to confirm any significant movement yet other than sporadic exchanges of rockets, etc.

From the deployment of EINT, etc. I'm gonna assume the US is expecting it to be imminent though.

EDIT: Looks like the offensive proper might not start until early hours of the 10th with long range fire missions, etc. in the mean time against specific targets.
 
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Rroff said:
Heard nothing to confirm any significant movement yet other than sporadic exchanges of rockets, etc.

From the deployment of EINT, etc. I'm gonna assume the US is expecting it to be imminent though.

EDIT: Looks like the offensive proper might not start until early hours of the 10th with long range fire missions, etc. in the mean time against specific targets.
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https://en.muraselon.com/2018/09/idlib-battle-syrian-army-offensive/

The Syrian Army has launched its long-awaited military operation to clear insurgent factions from the province of Idlib and surrounding territories.


Sources told Muraselon reporters that Syrian helicopters kicked-off the offensive this morning by targeting militant positions in Hama and Idlib provinces. The air attack was backed by shelling from Syrian Army rocket and howitzer units.

Russian airpower is also taking part in the attack alongside Syrian helicopters and artillery forces by bombing positions and movements of Nusra Front terrorists in the towns of Khan Sheikhun, Al-Latamanah, Ghernaz, Skik, Tel Skek and surrounding villages and hamlets.


Sources added to correspondents that the ground assault, when it does come, will take place on several axes at once. The immense air and artillery bombardment currently taking place is being done to soften up insurgent positions for infantry and armoured storming forces.

Syria’s permanent representative to the UN Security Council has confirmed Damascus’ willingness to secure safe passage for civilians in Idlib, if terrorist groups allow them to leave.


The military operation comes a day after the meeting of the Guarantor States in Tehran , where the final statement called on the militants to surrender their weapons and themselves – whilst Turkish President Erdogan demanded a truce in Idlib, Russian President Putin objected.

There are more than 30 insurgent factions in Idlib, most notably the Al-Qaeda-linked Nusra Front, estimated to number more than 50,000, according to the Russian delegate to the Security Council.

The Syrian army has mobilized tens of thousands of soldiers, in addition to hundreds of tanks and other fire support weapons, to wage a major battle aimed at liberating the last militant-held areas of northwest Syria.
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Ground assault is coming later it seems, but the proper air offensive seems to have started.


Ah Qalaat AL Mudiq is also confirming the start too.

So standard offensive as you expect. Air campaign and artillery to bomb them first before the ground troops start to move.
 
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