Israel-Hamas war - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

[lovelyhead]

That isn’t the context based on what we can see and you’ve completely ignored the context of the other photo involved.

Your delusion is incredible tbh.

What is the context that you see?

I see some kids handling a couple of Uzi's which are strapped down to a table. It looks to me that they are on display and not set up to be fired. Just like the kid on the British high street.

 

[Ayahuasca]

What is the context that you see?

I see some kids handling a couple of Uzi's which are strapped down to a table. It looks to me that they are on display and not set up to be fired. Just like the kid on the British high street.

Nobody said they were set up to be fired. That doesn’t mean they aren’t being taught how to use them.

You’ve had the context explained to you multiple times you’ve just decided because a child and a gun are in two different photos that it means the scenario is exactly the same and both the UK and Middle Eastern countries like Israel indoctrinate kids to guns in the exact same way.

It’s complete delusion when you apply context.

 

[dl8860]

You’ve had the context explained to you multiple times you’ve just decided because a child and a gun are in two different photos that it means the scenario is exactly the same and both the UK and Middle Eastern countries like Israel indoctrinate kids to guns in the exact same way.

It’s complete delusion when you apply context.

For what it's worth I think you are both wrong but you are slightly less wrong. Problem is you are confusing context for assumptions. It's a pointless argument either way, just stop.

 

[GGizmo]

I think something bigger is happening here. Why would all these ships from other countries be needed just to attack Gaza?

UK to deploy Royal Navy ships to Middle East to 'bolster security'

Two ships, surveillance aircraft, helicopters and a detachment of Royal Marines are being dispatched.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Ayahuasca]

I think something bigger is happening here. Why would all these ships from other countries be needed just to attack Gaza?

UK to deploy Royal Navy ships to Middle East to 'bolster security'

Two ships, surveillance aircraft, helicopters and a detachment of Royal Marines are being dispatched.

www.bbc.co.uk

As a deterrence and to provide aid?

The US and the UK to a lesser extent are always going to play world police.

 

[ICDP]

I think something bigger is happening here. Why would all these ships from other countries be needed just to attack Gaza?

UK to deploy Royal Navy ships to Middle East to 'bolster security'

Two ships, surveillance aircraft, helicopters and a detachment of Royal Marines are being dispatched.

www.bbc.co.uk

Moves like this are not always based on a military need, but a political need.

 

[throwaway4372]

I think something bigger is happening here. Why would all these ships from other countries be needed just to attack Gaza?

UK going is pointless with US carriers already there. It's a token gesture and good practice for the sailors. Standard for overseas engagement tbh, we don't have enough military to do anything meaningful abroad.

 

[Bald-Eagle22]

So having grown up as a child and a teenager in massive Jewish community in East London in the 70’s and 80’s i fully understand the closeness of family and brother and sisterhood , if you have t lived around it you wouldn’t understand. Some of the most kindest and generous people I have ever met in my life.

2 out of 3 Jews that lived in Europe in WW2 were exterminated in the holocaust , no way will they stop until Hamas are wiped from the face of the earth.

I for one agree with Israel current and future actions and for any Palestinians living in Gaza do the right thing , grab a gun and exterminate your own vermin- you never know the state is `Israel might just help-you out.

Jewish Population of Europe in 1945

Before the Nazi rise to power in 1933, Europe had a vibrant, established, and diverse Jewish culture. By 1945, two out of every three European Jews had been killed.

encyclopedia.ushmm.org

 

[Jono8]

I think something bigger is happening here. Why would all these ships from other countries be needed just to attack Gaza?

UK to deploy Royal Navy ships to Middle East to 'bolster security'

Two ships, surveillance aircraft, helicopters and a detachment of Royal Marines are being dispatched.

www.bbc.co.uk

It is likely a show of force to tell other Arab countries not to, under any circumstances, join in and attack Israel.

It even says:

The British armed forces will be on standby to "deliver practical support to Israel and partners in the region, and offer deterrence and assurance", Downing Street said.

No Arab country in that region could fight two US carrier groups + Modern Royal Navy vessels.

 

[Thekwango]

grab a gun and exterminate your own vermin

Easier said than done.

 

[lovelyhead]

You’ve had the context explained to you multiple times you’ve just decided because a child and a gun are in two different photos that it means the scenario is exactly the same and both the UK and Middle Eastern countries like Israel indoctrinate kids to guns in the exact same way.

It’s complete delusion when you apply context.

I am saying that it is the same yes. Adults encouraging kids to be interested in guns in order to encourage them to sign up for the armed forces. The only difference between the two photos is that Israel has compulsory military service.

It is clear that the Uzi's are not set up to be fired what with having a wire running through them. You wouldn't have them strapped down like that if the aim was to learn how to strip them down.

It seems to me that they are there for display and for people to pick them up and have a look.

Of course I don't have any proof that that is actually the case but I think on the balance of probabilities with what is displayed in the photo that that is most likely the case.

You seem to be asserting that this is some sort of gun training session but I don't see any evidence that that is the case.

Do you have any evidence that it is some sort of training session versus a display at some sort of fair or recruitment event, like the photo of the British Army?

 

[sithlord]

Wow. Each one of them can bring a building down. There won't be much left of Gaza if they use them all.

I feel sorry for all the innocent's.

Its one thing to get the bad guys but its indiscriminate bomb dropping that makes me lose sympathy fast for Israel. Can you imagine if the UK did this ??

Plus the cutting off of water and electricity to 2 million people.

 

[Harlequin]

What do you think the law is other than public opinion written down? There is no absolute right and wrong. The public define the rules. That's why it's so stupid of the BBC to play semantics when the bulk of the public are outraged. It would have been so simple to avoid this problem, but now there is yet another scandal at the BBC.
Anyway, not that it matters.

Thats not what the law is either but hey, keep going

 

[Ayahuasca]

I am saying that it is the same yes. Adults encouraging kids to be interested in guns in order to encourage them to sign up for the armed forces. The only difference between the two photos is that Israel has compulsory military service.

It is clear that the Uzi's are not set up to be fired what with having a wire running through them. You wouldn't have them strapped down like that if the aim was to learn how to strip them down.

It seems to me that they are there for display and for people to pick them up and have a look.

Of course I don't have any proof that that is actually the case but I think on the balance of probabilities with what is displayed in the photo that that is most likely the case.

You seem to be asserting that this is some sort of gun training session but I don't see any evidence that that is the case.

Do you have any evidence that it is some sort of training session versus a display at some sort of fair or recruitment event, like the photo of the British Army?

This seems like a massively roundabout way of saying that the likelihood of both photos showing the same level of encouragement for children to be interested in guns is probably not the case.

You've been told you're wrong by multiple people, just let it go, it really isn't that deep.

 

[Harlequin]

So having grown up as a child and a teenager in massive Jewish community in East London in the 70’s and 80’s i fully understand the closeness of family and brother and sisterhood , if you have t lived around it you wouldn’t understand. Some of the most kindest and generous people I have ever met in my life.

2 out of 3 Jews that lived in Europe in WW2 were exterminated in the holocaust , no way will they stop until Hamas are wiped from the face of the earth.

I for one agree with Israel current and future actions and for any Palestinians living in Gaza do the right thing , grab a gun and exterminate your own vermin- you never know the state is `Israel might just help-you out.

Jewish Population of Europe in 1945

Before the Nazi rise to power in 1933, Europe had a vibrant, established, and diverse Jewish culture. By 1945, two out of every three European Jews had been killed.

encyclopedia.ushmm.org

So you advocate Genocide? Same thing happened in 1938 in Germany.

 

[wildman]

There was meant to be one 2 years ago (I think) in West Bank. The leadership cancelled it when it became apparent Hamas would win.

or you could try reading the facts and then understand that it got pulled because Israel refused to allow any elections in East Jerusalem and the PA said thats not right we can't have elections without all our wards. So Israel basically dfirectly intefered in another "states" electoral process. I am guessign yhou were equally outraged by that as yhou probably were at the sham elections Putin had in Crimea and Donbass right ?

 

[Rroff]

I think something bigger is happening here. Why would all these ships from other countries be needed just to attack Gaza?

UK to deploy Royal Navy ships to Middle East to 'bolster security'

Two ships, surveillance aircraft, helicopters and a detachment of Royal Marines are being dispatched.

www.bbc.co.uk

The reaction is weird, albeit I'm personally an advocate of being prepared and/or taking pre-cautions, but I just don't see where that level of threat would come from, aside from Iran I don't see any of the surrounding countries getting involved at a state level and Iran isn't in a position to wage a direct war - their supply lines would be far too long and complicated.

 

[Raz]

So having grown up as a child and a teenager in massive Jewish community in East London in the 70’s and 80’s i fully understand the closeness of family and brother and sisterhood , if you have t lived around it you wouldn’t understand. Some of the most kindest and generous people I have ever met in my life.

2 out of 3 Jews that lived in Europe in WW2 were exterminated in the holocaust , no way will they stop until Hamas are wiped from the face of the earth.

I for one agree with Israel current and future actions and for any Palestinians living in Gaza do the right thing , grab a gun and exterminate your own vermin- you never know the state is `Israel might just help-you out.

Jewish Population of Europe in 1945

Before the Nazi rise to power in 1933, Europe had a vibrant, established, and diverse Jewish culture. By 1945, two out of every three European Jews had been killed.

encyclopedia.ushmm.org

That is absolutely fair, but you'd think having survived the horrors of Nazi Europe and losing so much they wouldn't take land away from others, or at least make more of an effort to stop illegal settlements, as well as being more compassionate towards those who are suffering.

 

[Dirk Diggler]

There's no doubting that there's nuance involved with this very complex topic, but wow, it really has exposed the blatant hypocrisy in our society.

 

[lovelyhead]

This seems like a massively roundabout way of saying that the likelihood of both photos being exactly the same scenario is probably not the case, well done.

You've been told you're wrong by multiple people, just let it go, it really isn't that deep.

That is some gaslighting there! Telling me I mean the opposite of what I say and that I should drop it because you and another poster say I am wrong!

OK those pre-teen Israeli kids were learning how to kill Palestinians with Uzi's which are tied down to a table and that photo was definitely not a picture of some kids handling guns that were on display just like the machine gun on the British high street. Yeah that seems the most likely explanation of the photo.

I would be willing to accept you are right that these kids are participating in a training session if you could provide some evidence that is the case. I did a reverse image search and the only things I could find regarding the photo was propaganda pieces from people with vested interests.