Israel-Hamas war - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

[nightwish]

Interesting ideas.

I don't think he's thought it through. He can't have. I mean, he seems to be saying that he *wants* the BBC to just parrot anything the government tells them to say (which, as you point out, will include seamlessly switching from one narrative to another on election night). That can't be what he *actually* wants (can it?), and so I think the only explanation left is that he really doesn't understand the consequences of what he's saying.

 

[oggiet]

Question Time isn’t the news.

It's propaganda as they choose who is going to be in the audience and what questions are asked.

 

[kakarott]

No. They're ISIS. They even left an ISIS flag at one of their massacres.

Having the same flag doesn't make you the same.

If BNP/UKIP wave the British flag and the Tories, doesn't that make them the same? Oh wait...

 

[n111ck]

Just so we're clear then, as we move, seemingly inevitably, into a Labour government, at such time, presumably your integrity will hold you to the same view you hold right now...

...What the UK Government decides is fact becomes fact... and...

...If the UK government decides the facts of a matter, it's then for media (presumably you meant all the media, not just the BBC?) to report that as fact.

Interesting ideas.

When the government puts something into UK law yes I expect the BBC to report that as a fact not an opinion? Don't you?

Is the BBC above UK law in your opinion? Maybe it is given its past behaviour...

 

[n111ck]

Nice, so Hamas are quite happy for their civilians to stay and get blown up then?

About right, then they can go and plee how they are victims in all this, again.

Their ******** is so transparent.

Who was it yesterday arguing that Hamas don't use civilians as human shields? Must be feeling pretty stupid now..

 

[Thekwango]

Did Hamas drop leaflets before they went in and started killing children?

You know that they didn’t. You also know it’s irrelevant to ask that question.

 

[Apex]

Question Time isn’t the news.

It doesn't matter, it's a political show, and it is clearly biased hosted by the wife of a massive tory donor.

 

[SpellowHouse]

You might want to look into the BBC position. There are records of the BBC actively avoiding the use of the term terrorist since at least 2005.

It's not just for the sake of hamas. Seems a bit of a non story to me.

It's difficult to keep up with the accusations against the BBC. They're either a propaganda mouthpiece for the right wing government or they're a bunch of lefties secretly wearing Free Palastine underpants.

I just copied one news report here - rather than repeat what it says...

The BBC is facing pressure to tear up a style guide which advises staff not to call Hamas attackers “terrorists”.

Hamas is designated as a terrorist organisation in countries including the UK, the US, Australia and Japan.

On Saturday, it launched a surprise attack on Israeli civilians, with Israel’s death toll now surpassing 1,300.

Palestinian health officials have said that at least 1,200 people have died after Israel launched retaliatory airstrikes on the Gaza Strip.

However, the BBC has repeatedly been criticised by both viewers and prominent public figures, including Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer, for its wording surrounding the group.

Now, in a letter to the watchdog, Lord Wolfson KC, Lord Pannick KC, Lord Grabiner KC and Jeremy Brier KC have urged the regulator to investigate the corporation.

Lord Pickles, a former Conservative Party chairman, said: “They are breaking into civilian homes and murdering children. It is beyond belief that the one place you look for balance, the BBC, is not delivering coverage that is fair, balanced or reasonable.

 

[Thekwango]

Who was it yesterday arguing that Hamas don't use civilians as human shields? Must be feeling pretty stupid now..

Who in their right mind was arguing that?? It’s been well known for almost as long as Hamas has existed that they use human shields.

 

[EddScott]

propaganda

Next to Woke, this has got to be the most overused word of the 2020s.

 

[RxR]

"Mosques called on residents of the Gaza Strip not to leave their homes on Friday after Israel's military told all civilians, more than 1 million people, to relocate south ahead of an expected ground invasion that risks high casualties."

Wtf

 

[godinman]

So war crimes are currently BEING committed and the UN says nothing..... this fact alone tells you all you need to know about current world governments.

Hamas are a terrorist/militant group.... small and not an "army" or a 1st world nation. They are rightly condemned and will face trial for war crimes etc.... but apparently the Isreali army ( a proper army of a 1st world nation ) are allowed to commit war crimes ???

What's this? A nuanced view?

Who'd have thought it was possible to (obviously) condemn Hamas for their vile attack while not sanctioning Israel committing war crimes in response.



Collective punishment, targeting civilian infrastructure, starving a population, cutting off power to millions of people. Hospitals have maybe a day of power left, after which point babies on life support will die. Over half the population are children and thousands of artillery shells, rockets and missiles are landing with no warning. Israel is blockading the whole area, no humanitarian support is allowed in.

How exactly are these 1.1 million people going to access drinking water, food and medical treatment while being herded by threats of violence southward?

And long term, what is this going to do other than breed another generation of terrorists? Or does Israel really think it's going to somehow wipe Gaza clean and solve all of their problems with this move? History says it will not work, and will breed more violence, unless they do indeed plan on a full genocide.

Once awful act does not get fixed by carrying out another one.

 

[Apex]

Next to Woke, this has got to be the most overused word of the 2020s.

I'd say underused. It's been in effect for thousands of years, and as we all know History is written by the victors.

 

[jpaul]

as was said on r4 today to (stuttering) shapps - government only reclassified Hamas as terrorist org in last two years .... somewhat arbitrary.

 

[oggiet]

Next to Woke, this has got to be the most overused word of the 2020s.

Propaganda been around for years, it actually describes actions. Woke is just some word made up by bunch of gammons.

 

[GGizmo]

Propaganda been around for years, it actually describes actions. Woke is just some word made up by bunch of gammons.

Black gammons?

 

[oggiet]

Black gammons?

The Sun and Daily Mail reading gammons.

 

[Uther]

"Mosques called on residents of the Gaza Strip not to leave their homes on Friday after Israel's military told all civilians, more than 1 million people, to relocate south ahead of an expected ground invasion that risks high casualties."

Wtf

They want them to die, helps the narrative and fuels more anger.

 

[RxR]

They want them to die, helps the narrative and fuels more anger.

And then they'll call them martyrs for following the godamn worst advice.

 

[Uther]

Who in their right mind was arguing that?? It’s been well known for almost as long as Hamas has existed that they use human shields.

Unless you can see evidence of Hamas holding guns on civilians heads this human shield excuse doesn't fly. So Hamas are thinking let the Israeli's kill 2 birds with 1 stone i.e. a Hamas fighter and civilian. It would be advantageous for civilians to live or what's the point of fighting for the land?

This human shield is a lie so they can bomb however they want.

He seems to be a bit of a Hamas supporter tbh, judging by a lot of his posts.