Israel-Hamas war - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Woman held on suspicion of supporting Hamas bailed

Counter terror police are investigating a speech made at a protest in Brighton after the Hamas attacks.
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"Hamas is proscribed as a terrorist organisation by many Western governments, including the UK."

Factual reporting. Case closed. If that ain't good enough for you, then tough IMV. I hope they don't cave to the baying mob.
 
n111ck said:
When the government puts something into UK law yes I expect the BBC to report that as a fact not an opinion? Don't you?

Is the BBC above UK law in your opinion? Maybe it is given its past behaviour...
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You tell me.

Hamas has been committing atrocities for years if not decades, but the Tories only saw fit to proscribe them the year before last. Your logic dictates that you don't consider that they were terrorists before this time.

You keep on referring to the BBC. Can you confirm that you do mean all of the media?
 
bjorkiii said:
Do people think Israel will become a safer country after commiting genocide?
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Hamas are the ones hiding behind human shields and telling their people to stay put so they can hide behind them. Israel has warned civilians to GTFO (something Hamas didn't bother to do before they targeted civilian men, women, and children Saturday.)

Israel wants civilians to leave so they can fight Hamas and have said so ahead of time.

Hamas wants the civilians to stay so they can hide behind them.

Send your strongly worded letter of dissatisfaction to Hamas.
 
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nightwish said:
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Woman held on suspicion of supporting Hamas bailed

Counter terror police are investigating a speech made at a protest in Brighton after the Hamas attacks.
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"Hamas is proscribed as a terrorist organisation by many Western governments, including the UK."

Factual reporting. Case closed. If that ain't good enough for you, then tough IMV. I hope they don't cave to the baying mob.
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Neither do I as the end of the licence fee can’t come soon enough.

Regardless it’s good to see they are not using the term militant any more.
 
garnett said:
You tell me.

Hamas has been committing atrocities for years if not decades, but the Tories only saw fit to proscribe them the year before last. Your logic dictates that you don't consider that they were terrorists before this time.

You keep on referring to the BBC. Can you confirm that you do mean all of the media?
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I'm not the BBC and I'm not criticising them for what terms they may or may not have used over 2 years ago - just the facts of the matter now.

However it seems the BBC have a new form of weasel words, as per the link above, so have at least backed down on the use of the word 'militant' - its just a shame they have further damaged the BBC's reputation the in the meantime.
 
n111ck said:
If the bombing was really as indiscriminate as Hamas supporters would have us believe why is the death count relatively low..

I'm sure Israel have much more powerful weapons available to them if they just want to flatten everything..
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Indiscriminate shelling doesn't mean trying to flatten everything that an entirely different proposition and yes your right Israel could if they wanted to systematically flatten the major population centres thankfully they have chosen not to.

PS I'm not a Hamas supporter they alone are to blame for the current situation their recent actions are utterly deplorable.
 
Uther said:
He seems to be a bit of a Hamas supporter tbh, judging by a lot of his posts.
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Just wait till this forum celebrates fasting month again and closes ANY posts that disagree with it in complete fear! :rolleyes:

And so it begins, the Friday M...Hamas issue!

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BBC being BBC, showing the plight of Palestine
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Emotional moment BBC crew find injured friend in Gaza hospital

BBC Arabic reporter Adnan El-Bursh visits the main hospital in Gaza City, which is at breaking point.
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Israel-Palestinian conflict: Life in the Gaza Strip

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Twinz said:
You claimed that I was "suggesting that Israel have no control over what goes in to Gaza".

I have not.

I have said:
"Now that Hamas has launched thousands of rockets into Israel, from Gaza, you may understand why Israel wanted to check boxes labeled "Food for innocent children, TOTALLY NOT WEAPONS FOR HAMAS! (trust me bro)"

They were not trying to stop food (why would they care?) from going into Gaza (before Hamas attacked Saturday), they were trying (and apparently failing) to stop WEAPONS from being smuggled in.

Weapons. You know, like all the rockets Hamas has been firing into Israel. Weapons?

Please tell me you understand that just because a truck is full of boxes labeled "food for innocent children". That doesn't mean that's actually all that's in every single container labeled as such.

Do you not understand how smuggling works? -Or do you not think Hamas would stoop so low as to smuggle weapons in under false pretenses?
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not sure where to start with this. but first off, i know perfectly well how smuggling works and i understand perfectly well how just because a box is labeled food doesn't necessarily mean it only contains food. so you can stop trying to be clever or smart and attempting to create a narrative where i don't understand smething. i do, perfectly. probably a lot better than you actually. but that's a different conversation for a different thread.
i may have picked up your one liners incorrectly, so i can only apologise for that but to me they read like you were trying to assert Israel never had any controls in place to restrict or control the flow of goods into Gaza. which is incorrect.
if that is not what you meant, then perhaps instead of childish one liners, post what you mean. and instead of trying to be clever, just reply, in a normal sensible way.
 
Tom_ed1987 said:
Israel aren't committing genocide.
It will 100% be safer once they effectively control the top half of Gaza though, as Hamas rockets will no longer be in range of some big Israeli cities.
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That’ll only ever be a temporary fix. The only permanent solution is to convince Palestinians turn their backs on Hamas and that requires a negotiated peace. I’m sure there’s a lot of people in Gaza who would be glad to see the back of Hamas if there was a viable alternative.
 
nightwish said:
Can we be honest here? This isn't about the word "terrorist" is it? You've been wanting to see nothing less than the complete destruction of the BBC for quite some time, haven't you?
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This is just another example of a completely avoidable blunder by the BBC - if it was funded by advertising or subscriptions I’d care less but it’s not (yet).
 
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