Israel-Hamas war - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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FoxEye said:
I really don't understand the free pass that Israel gets. Israel has done many, many extremely awful things in this conflict.

And Israel gets to act with total impunity as nobody is ever prepared to condemn them, literally no matter what they do. They can murder journalists, use force to annex lands, displace and brutalise Palestinians, and none of their allies bat an eyelid.

Worth remembering that there's a significant number of jews who want nothing to do with Israel and their actions. But the US/UK etc will always side with them no matter what. It's a problem as it emboldens them to just be more and more aggressive and brutal, and never need to seek a resolution with any kind of compromise.
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because they are "on our side" (probably) come WW3...
This will never ever ever ever be solved without a genocide...... And that doesn't solve anything...
Thats why i say dumb things like they need to just either fight to the death or just draw a line on a map and stop.
Nothing will end this.
 
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Craterloads said:
They treat the Christians like **** too.

Where would they be expuling them too?
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No,

www.opendemocracy.net

Israel passes legislation to reclassify its Christian citizens as ‘non-Arab’

A new Israeli law creating a legal distinction between Arabs of Christian and Muslim descent passes in the Knesset. Basing the categorisation and status of citizenship on religious and ethnic identifications creates systemic barriers to those citizens who are not deemed acceptable members of the...
www.opendemocracy.net www.opendemocracy.net

They make a distinction.

No idea where they would go, pick any arab country around them that doesn't recognise the state of Isreal.

Countries that Recognize Israel 2024

worldpopulationreview.com worldpopulationreview.com
 
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Kosovo and Serbia, and Armenia and Azerbaijan, which kicked off soon after Armenia criticised Russia and publicly being understood to be warming to the idea of of seeking protection for itself with help from the USA. Hmmm, who might be a force behind all of this? Related frens
Next it'll be somewhere around China/India/Philipines/Korea etc.It's spreading and for Russia, a good distraction from their own war.
 
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DarrenM343 said:
Kosovo and Serbia, and Armenia and Azerbaijan, which kicked off soon after Armenia criticised Russia and publicly being seen to warm to the idea of seeking protection for itself from the USA. Hmmm, who might be a force behind all of this? Related frens
Next it'll be somewhere around China/India/Philipines/Korea etc.It's spreading and for Russia, a good distraction from their own war.
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India and Pakistan have been at a standoff over the kashmir region for years.
So you can add them to your list already
 
Yeah, maybe that will kick off again soon. Then again, I don't think either are seen as pro-Kremlin, or backed by, unlike one side in these other trouble areas. Iran have been quick to speak up backing the actions in Israel and it's difficult not to see the Russia connection there.......
 
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I've long-since lost hope of meaningful, lasting peace in the Middle East. Some problems are a Gordian Knot and there is no solving them nicely. But I'm pretty certain that Putin's birthday is going very well. "Wouldn't it be a shame if something kicked off in the Middle East and America had to divert its air shield supplies to Israel instead of Ukraine in time for power grid disabling season?"

I've little doubt who's sponsoring any chaos in the world at the moment. Clever man... sadly. This is why Ukraine needed massive support quickly. Time is nobody's friend except dictators who can play the long game.
 
lemonkettaz said:
Problem with social media now is you just see how barbaric and how humans are just a bunch of animals...

Very sad.

Don't even care about the politics of most these places now just look at it all with sadness, so pointless.
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Mostly I don't bother following the news these days, same **** different day as it always was and will be.
 
BUDFORCE said:
To be fair, and I appreciate it isn't quite a realistic example for obvious reasons, but can you imagine that somehow they managed to come to the UK and do they same thing?

I think most people would be signing on and picking up a gun at the earliest opportunity.
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Yes, of course there would be a reaction if a foreign power were to illegally annex part of the UK and ship people in to create settlements.
 
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Freefaller said:
Israel are already occupying land that doesn't belong to them and seen as a bully.
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Judaism predates Christianity. Christianity predates Islam & futhermore was ihmo "invented" to exploit the inherent weakness of a pacifist religion. I'd be very interested in your explaination of how Israel doesn't belong to the Jews. Or are you one of those Lefties who believe Britain should also be an Islamic state; because you know "reparations".
 
Deluxe1 said:
Utterly awful videos coming out, just watched one of an Isreali woman presumably kidnapped and being bundled from the rear of a 4x4 into the backseat.

I doubt she will ever be seen alive again.
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Tough watch I have to say and ive been seeing a lot of Russia and Ukraine conflict, so sad poor girl clearly scared trying to escape.

Im sorry but I cant condone that in the way its being done, I know Israel are no saints and have been bombing civilians for many years I remember when it kicked off before some horrible scenes.

Seems massive intel failure though from Israel as someone mentioned definitely there 9/11 there was tons of militants in the video attacking that army base they didnt stand a chance, didnt seem to be many soldiers on Israel side?

This will always be a viscious cycle of a war unfortuantely but the taking of innocent civilians is just disgusting, I feel for the palestinians but the footage im seeing you reap what you sow now.
 
Trusty said:

Jewish exodus from the Muslim world - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

Where should they have gone then?
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Huh?

You brought up the Canaanites from over 2000 years ago to counter an argument and now, once challenged, you've pivoted towards something else as if it's the same.... You need to be at least a little consistent with your arguments.

Yes, the exodus you now to refer to was wrong but please note that some of this exodus was not forced. Some of it was voluntary migration to the newly formed Israeli state by the UK which was created to give Jewish people a safe country and one to call their own due to mass persecution after WW2.

Yes, some of it was forced and this was wrong but isn't this what Israelis are carrying out in the West Bank just now and forcing the Palestinians out?

That's the issue I have with the whole thing as my very first post in this thread stated... The hypocrisy of the Israelis is crazy. They were given land but they aren't happy with that. They now want to take over more land and to hell with the native population.

You know, the same people that have cultivated a worldwide impression as being mercilessly persecuted since time began to the point where, if you disagree with anything they say/do now, it's touted as anti-semetic...
 
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