Israel-Hamas war - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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randal said:
Putting aside whether or not the sitting US President had anything to do with the below conflicts (because logic jumped out of the window when I decided to reply to this post with anything other than flippancy), Trump had twice as many wars initiated during his presidency than Biden. Unless you had some other conflicts in mind, Yemen and Ukraine have been ongoing theatres since 2014. Thanks Obama.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ongoing_armed_conflicts

Presidency of Donald Trump January 20, 2017 – January 20, 2021

Ethiopian civil conflict
Gang war in Haiti
Anglophone Crisis
Bangladesh drug war

Presidency of Joe Biden January 20, 2021 - Ongoing
Salvadoran gang crackdown
Las Anod conflict
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erm… there is a pretty big omissions on that Biden list?

Not that the POTUS can be responsible for what every head case does.
 
Unseul said:
Really? Groups from all over Europe, the middle East and Africa all mixed together, with multiple large religions too. Yes there's a Jewish majority, but trust me that the European Jews and middle Eastern Jews and South African Jews and Russian Jews and Ethiopian Jews, not to mention orthodox to kibbutz, are not the same culture.

That's before you get to the fact that there's a lot of Christians, Muslims, Druze etc Arabs, Bedouins...
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Multicultural and multiculturalism are not the same thing. Israel is not a multiculturalist state. It is explicitly, constitutionally, not a multicultural state; written into the basic law of the country.
 
Trusty said:
You need to read some history books, Hamas is arab, the current ethnic population of Palestine is arab. The Canaanites were not arabs.
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Really? How far back are we going to go in history to make a point with bringing up the Canaanites :cry:

I'm referring to something that happened within the last 100 years and you want to bring up stuff from over 2 millennia ago to counter it? :cry:
 
Malevolence said:
If you're going to brutally occupy land and randomly murder civilians, including children, that you've forced to live in tiny little enclaves and then steal more land to build crappy little shacks on you can't be surprised when things kick off.
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Ah yes, "If you're going to *insert history of ukraine* then you can't be surprised when things kick off." indeed.
 
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Malevolence said:
If you're going to brutally occupy land and randomly murder civilians, including children, that you've forced to live in tiny little enclaves and then steal more land to build crappy little shacks on you can't be surprised when things kick off.
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I really don't understand the free pass that Israel gets. Israel has done many, many extremely awful things in this conflict.

And Israel gets to act with total impunity as nobody is ever prepared to condemn them, literally no matter what they do. They can murder journalists, use force to annex lands, displace and brutalise Palestinians, and none of their allies bat an eyelid.

Worth remembering that there's a significant number of jews who want nothing to do with Israel and their actions. But the US/UK etc will always side with them no matter what. It's a problem as it emboldens them to just be more and more aggressive and brutal, and never need to seek a resolution with any kind of compromise.
 
I hope judgement day has come.

FoxEye said:
I really don't understand the free pass that Israel gets. Israel has done many, many extremely awful things in this conflict.

And Israel gets to act with total impunity as nobody is ever prepared to condemn them, literally no matter what they do. They can murder journalists, use force to annex lands, displace and brutalise Palestinians, and none of their allies bat an eyelid.

Worth remembering that there's a significant number of jews who want nothing to do with Israel and their actions. But the US/UK etc will always side with them no matter what. It's a problem as it emboldens them to just be more and more aggressive and brutal, and never need to seek a resolution with any kind of compromise.
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You're free to show your support and leave your cosy home in Cornwall and move to Palestine or one of their supporters since you don't care about protecting what took centuries to build.
 
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NZXT30 said:
I hope judgement day has come.


You're free to show your support and leave your cosy home in Cornwall and move to Palestine or one of their supporters since you don't care about protecting what took centuries to build.
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Judgement day? What do you mean? You want Israel to implement some kind of final solution to the Palestinian question?
 
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