It looks like the 'real' /affordable RDNA3 + next gen NV desktop launch won't launch until September. Thoughts?

Murphy · 24 May 2023 at 18:32

g67575 said:
The 6650 XT can be had for as little as £216.

AMD has a problem, I think really this is how much the RX 7600 should cost, considering they are offering basically the same performance.

AMD will do what AMD have been doing for a while now, they'll release something at a price and within a month or two drop prices.

Bad PR be damned, or detached from reality and unable to read the room. (although the last min 6700 price reduction seems to show some sort of awareness, just a smidgen though).

g67575 · 24 May 2023 at 18:41

The RTX 4060 TI 8GB (~£370) is nearly as fast as the RTX 3070, but it's around £100 cheaper than the MSRP of the 3070, not so bad really.

Wouldn't pay more than that though. I think the trouble is that neither card is ideal for 1440p games in 2023, but both perform very well as 1080p cards.

g67575 · 24 May 2023 at 19:08

The RTX 4060 TI at ~£370 makes the RTX 4070 seem poor value (especially at 1080p) at ~£550.

But the RX 6700 XT at ~£315 is better value than the RTX 4060 TI, especially when comparing 1% lows at 1440p.

The RTX 4070 (still) needs a £50 price cut

g67575 · 24 May 2023 at 19:36

Murphy said:
AMD will do what AMD have been doing for a while now, they'll release something at a price and within a month or two drop prices.

Yup.

I imagine they will try to sell off the RX 6650 XTs as soon as possible because they are probably the best value cards (at ~£216) at 1080p right now.

g67575 · 24 May 2023 at 20:00

Looking at the results in detail, it looks like the RX 7600 would provide a smoother experience at 1080p compared to the RX 6650 XT in some games, with a notable difference in Warhammer III:

Full article here:
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-7600/35.html

Nexus18 · 24 May 2023 at 20:03

g67575 said:
Looking at the results in detail, it looks like the RX 7600 would provide a smother experience at 1080p compared to the RX 6650 XT in some games, with a notable difference in Warhammer III:

Full article here:
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-7600/35.html

Just pay the extra and get a better all round gpu, that's one thing amd are good at, up selling their competitors gpus.

Both should be ashamed of this gen for the lower/mid end market.

Nexus18 · 24 May 2023 at 20:06

g67575 · 24 May 2023 at 20:18

It's actually not so easy to recommend a cheap, decent performing 1080p card at the moment, because in some games, it looks like they just didn't optimise the game engine and AMD drivers for AMD cards:

Nexus18 · 24 May 2023 at 20:20

g67575 said:
It's actually not so easy to recommend a cheap, decent performing 1080p card at the moment, because in some games, it looks like they just didn't optimise the game engine and AMD drivers for AMD cards:

It's never the game or drivers fault though......

As it is, if you're on a budget and play at 1080, buy second hand last gen. Literally no point buying any gpus from this gen with the exception of the 4070 and 4090

g67575 · 24 May 2023 at 20:23

I think might as well buy a RX 6800 or RTX 4060 TI for 1080p, in some games it's clearly not overkill.

The RX 6800 is a better card than the RTX 4060 TI in overall performance, but the price is too high for the AMD card atm.

EDIT - The RTX 4060 ought to provide decent performance at 1080p, it's coming in July I think. I'd guess they will price it at ~£300.

Nexus18 · 24 May 2023 at 20:39

g67575 said:
I think might as well buy a RX 6800 or RTX 4060 TI for 1080p, in some games it's clearly not overkill.

The RX 6800 is a better card than the RTX 4060 TI in overall performance, but the price is too high for the AMD card atm.

EDIT - The RTX 4060 ought to provide decent performance at 1080p, it's coming in July I think. I'd guess they will price it at ~£300.

I think for 1080P gaming, I would look at a second hand 3060/ti or 6800 over a 7600/4060/ti, best bang per buck that will last a good while.

g67575 · 24 May 2023 at 20:47

The RTX 3060 TI would be a good pick for 1080p I think, but I think they will drop the price soon, as it doesn't make sense that it costs about the same as the RTX 4060 TI 8GB.

g67575 · 24 May 2023 at 21:00

There's probably a case just to get the RTX 4060 TI for some games at 1080p:

It's the most demanding 1080p game I've seen I think.

DragonQ · 24 May 2023 at 21:15

If you want more than 8 GB for a 1080p card I guess the 6700 XT is the best option still.

Sounds like AMD may have finally solved the high idle power usage issue with a recent beta driver, in which case a 7900 XT or 7800 XT is likely coming my way, depending on the latter's perf & £.

Murphy · 25 May 2023 at 08:02

So any guesses/news on when AMD are going to address the huge gap in the RDN3 line up? They've got the 7600 then there's a $500 gap to the 7900's.

Man-In-A-Teapot · 25 May 2023 at 10:46

As long as its not a 7734 [calculator joke].

g67575 · 25 May 2023 at 21:12

I could buy a used RTX 3080 TI for £540 at the moment. Glad I waited.

The only thing holding me back is wondering if used /new prices of the RX 7900 XT are about to fall.

g67575 · 25 May 2023 at 22:28

Any tips on undervolting a RTX 3080 TI if I do buy one?

Ideally would like to keep the power usage at 300w max, because my power supply isn't the highest end (Seasonic 650w Prime).

g67575 · 26 May 2023 at 10:25

There's a RX 6800 for £430 now, so definitely cheaper than a Series X console now, and a bit faster too.

DragonQ · 27 May 2023 at 09:08

6800 for £430 is tempting. If it had 16 GB of VRAM, the 4070 at £600 plus Diablo IV would be on its way to me as we speak. :/

It'll be annoying to wait for the 7800 (XT) then find it offers no improvement in perf/£ or perf/W compared to the 6800.