Seems to be the case given what Ferrari have said about Canada where they also beat Mclaren in the pit stops but eventually lost out due to back markers.
I wonder if pit stops do play a major part in the coming races if it is tight as Monza was.
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Seems to be the case given what Ferrari have said about Canada where they also beat Mclaren in the pit stops but eventually lost out due to back markers.
I wonder if pit stops do play a major part in the coming races if it is tight as Monza was.
Probably to indicate where they should stop - especially as they admitted that Massa isn't tall enough to see over the cockpit properly...
epic trolling but its based on facts so
Great stuff.
All the top drivers the world has ever seen, make manouvres which are deemed to be on the edge of legality. Hamilton is no different.
Senna, Prost, MSc, Alonso (and Hamilton)...have all done it. As such Hamilton, should consider himself in a very exclusive club.
Hamilton and Alonso remain my favourite drivers in the current F1 era, not only because they are fast, but also because they are not afraid to explore every tactic (legal or illegal), to win (or improve their current race position).
epic trolling but its based on facts so
What have McLaren got away with this season?
There's your answer FrankJH
Come on Alonso, how much assistance do you need?
Don't know but according to that vid, Hamilton has had his fair share
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The most chuckle worthy video I have seen for awhile. Now I'm no expert at foreign languages but that's not extremely biased Alonso loving, Hamilton hating Spanish TV by any chance is it? I will nit pick about one part, the whole "he kicked out Webber" bit where he passed him under green flags after the 1st SC line. Oh and also why there is no mention of Vettel quite clearly in that video pushing Hamilton back in the direction of the pit boxes, but just pinning it on square on Hamilton racing Vettel.
I will nit pick about one part, the whole "he kicked out Webber" bit where he passed him under green flags after the 1st SC line. Oh and also why there is no mention of Vettel quite clearly in that video pushing Hamilton back in the direction of the pit boxes, but just pinning it on square on Hamilton racing Vettel.The most chuckle worthy video I have seen for awhile. Now I'm no expert at foreign languages but that's not extremely biased Alonso loving, Hamilton hating Spanish TV by any chance is it?
biased much? he should have slowed down not stayed at the side of him theres not enough room for 2 people and when hamilton was rushing to try and get out infront of vettel he almost lost it and his car was pointing towards someone elses garage until it snapped back around.
if it was schumacher most people would be wanting him banned from f1 but because its hamilton .......
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But that's what makes him an amazing driver - he doesn't back off. Sometimes even to his own detriment, as in the last race.
Hamilton is great for F1, as is Alonso (who I personally deteste, but I won't pretend a lack of bias on that one. Driving for Ferrari certainly doesn't help). Schumacher was bad for F1, but only because hm and Ferrari were *too* good (or had inadequate competition). If you took away all the drivers who pushed the limits there'd be no point watching.
I would agree with this had they been side by side.
But there are a few things going against Hamilton in this instance.
1. He was nearly released into the path of Vettel.
2. In his desperation to get ahead he nearly lost control of the car.
3. Most importantly, Vettel was about half a car further ahead of Hamilton and ergo it was his "track". So squeezing Hamilton off to the right was no different to Kubica squeezing Alonso off the track (and him getting a penalty for it).
Now you might argue Vettel could be accused of being reckless for squeezing Hamilton off to the right into the path of the the mechanics, but then you can also say that Hamilton should not have been there in the first place...
Makes it a kind of a catch 22.
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Hahaha, I'm probably one of the least biased people when it comes to drivers on here. And for once I'm actually going to agree with Sunama. You cant even admit that Vettel was at fault just call me biased because I picked holes in the extremely biased video. Don't forget its not the only time Vettel has made questionable pushing moves this season. Also nice to note that even though I never mentioned Schumacher you still manage to get him in a post.
Agreed. But on the flipside, why put yourself (Hamilton) in that position in the first place? You're behind Vettel, you're not going to get out infront of him before the end of the pit. You're speed limited. Concede that you have lost the pitstop race. Slow down tuck in behind, and get him at the next opportunity on track?
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Hamilton not conceding is stupid, but Vettel pushing Hamilton to the right is just dangerous, Vettel could have just kept going as they were on the limiter anyway and he was in front anyway so a good chance he would still be in front after the pitstop.
Because you're a racing driver not an IAM instructor. Winners in F1 always push it to the line.
However not giving up is one thing but trying to make your opponent give up the position by forcing him into the mechanics is madness.
EXACTLY!
When you hire certain drivers, you know their behaviour in advance and as a boss, it is pointless to tell them to change their behaviour.
Hamilton: You know you are going to have a driver who is going to be involved in a few 50-50 incidents during the season. Some will end well. Other's will end in a crash.
Alonso: You know you are getting a driver who will probably score as many points as it is possible to get from the car you give him. Unfortunately, you will have to put up with A LOT of tantrums (R.Dennis, in 2007, didnt quite understand this, which bemuses me). In this way, to manage Alonso, you have to treat him like a spoilt brat and pander to his needs to calm him down.
Button: you know he wont take any risks unless absolutely necessary. You know he will get the car to the finish, as long as it is realistically possible. He will fit in to any team and get along with any personnel you place alongside him.
Telling Hamilton to back off, is a pointless exercise and if enjforced may actually take the edge off his super-fast driving style.
I still contend that Vettel and Hamilton were equally to blame.