Italian Grand Prix 2015, Monza - Race 12/19

C.R.A.Z.Y · 6 Sep 2015 at 15:00

For me it all boils down to intent!
If it can be proved that Merc deliberately under-inflated the tire then I'm all for a punishment as that's simply not cricket!
However if Merc followed protocol and the pressure simply dropped independently then I think any type of punishment would be rather unfair!!

**The cynic in me thinks that a Merc no-score race at this point in the season would be lucrative/beneficial !??! /tinfoilhat

muon · 6 Sep 2015 at 15:00

Jono8 said:
Exactly.

That's why you have to be strict on what you do look at.

Zero tolerance.

CaptainRAVE · 6 Sep 2015 at 15:00

I bet Rosberg has his fingers crossed for a DQ.

Quartz · 6 Sep 2015 at 15:00

Mr Men said:
Will be up to the race stewards, but clearly a 25 second penalty is not going to be any punishment.

Not for this race, but it would set the benchmark for future races.

Vertigo · 6 Sep 2015 at 15:01

Don't understand why everyone is talking about a disqualification. Symonds just saying this is the standard penality for a "clear technical infringement". How was Bottas driving around with odd tyres on not a "clear technical infringement"?

SS-89 · 6 Sep 2015 at 15:01

Pat Symonds saying that is both a technical and safety infringement and he'd expect high penalties and thus disqualification...

Rosberg will be happy I guess.

Psycho Ned · 6 Sep 2015 at 15:01

CaptainRAVE said:
I bet Rosberg has his fingers crossed for a DQ.

Suppose it depends if they dish a punishment out for him next race cos he retired as his were even more under!!

this_is_gav · 6 Sep 2015 at 15:02

Vertigo1 said:
Don't understand why everyone is talking about a disqualification. Symonds just saying this is the standard penality for a "clear technical infringement". How was Bottas driving around with odd tyres on not a "clear technical infringement"?

Because it's a sporting infringement.

Flibster · 6 Sep 2015 at 15:03

Tyre pressures set by the Pirrelli representative in the Mercedes pit not the team themselves.

Wonder if the teams can ask for the calibration certificate for the tyre pressure sensor that was used. If that can't be produced then the checks are invalid.

They had 5 minutes before the start of the race to adjust the pressures, but nothing was said then. It then took and hour an 4 minutes before the stewards and team were notified.

That is absurd.

awaybreaktoday · 6 Sep 2015 at 15:04

that is unfair if they did not check all cars...........

Vertigo · 6 Sep 2015 at 15:04

Lol, Ted only just got hold of Doc48 which Glaucus posted here 25 minutes ago.

Glaucus · 6 Sep 2015 at 15:04

And they have telemetry for tire pressure for the entire race. Which Mercedes say is always above 19.5psi

MooMoo444 · 6 Sep 2015 at 15:04

I bet FIA would love to DQ to keep the championship interesting. Should be interesting.

Mr Men · 6 Sep 2015 at 15:05

Flibster said:
Tyre pressures set by the Pirrelli representative in the Mercedes pit not the team themselves.

The team set the pressures. Paddy Lowe said so to Ted on Sky.

Glaucus · 6 Sep 2015 at 15:05

Vertigo1 said:
Lol, Ted only just got hold of Doc48 which Glaucus posted here 25 minutes ago.

This is where twitter comes into it's own.

Kamerad · 6 Sep 2015 at 15:05

SS-89 said:
Pat Symonds saying that is both a technical and safety infringement and he'd expect high penalties and thus disqualification...

Rosberg will be happy I guess.

I find it funny him talking about how rules are rules after his involvement in the Piquet Jr incident

Clarkson · 6 Sep 2015 at 15:05

Seems a bit pedantic to punish here since he would have won by the same margin I'm sure.

However, if they play the letter of the law game and therefore punish for the infringement, then the punishment surely should also be to the letter of the law, even if that means it has no effect on the final race positions.

Tailoring a punishment to make sure it hurts more is just stupid

deuse · 6 Sep 2015 at 15:06

SS-89 said:
Pat Symonds saying that is both a technical and safety infringement and he'd expect high penalties and thus disqualification...

Rosberg will be happy I guess.

The same Pat Symonds that was known to cheat

Anyway..roll on the next race...

muon · 6 Sep 2015 at 15:06

muon said:
Maybe they went round measuring one tyre on the vehicles?

We'll find out.

Is there an advantage having left to right tilt?

So there is an advantage to having lower pressure on the left rear.

Vertigo · 6 Sep 2015 at 15:06

Regardless of any penalties, for the FIA to check pressures on the grid then do nothing about it until after the race has finished is totally farcical. If they were to DQ Lewis, they're basically saying they knew his car was illegal before the race even started but they let him drive the whole race, win it and do the podium ceremony, only to DQ him later.