Italian Grand Prix 2015, Monza - Race 12/19

fez · 6 Sep 2015 at 15:07

I don't understand A) why you would have a pirelli representative there if they can easily tamper with it when hes not there. B) Why Mercedes would do this when they clearly have the beating of all the other teams C) Their two drivers are way out ahead in the drivers and constructors championship.

Jono8 · 6 Sep 2015 at 15:07

If what Merc say is true and they have telemetry proving the tyres are within spec the whole race then I don't so how the FIA can dish out a penalty just because their single measurement said one tyre was 0.3psi under.

Mr Men · 6 Sep 2015 at 15:07

Vertigo1 said:
Regardless of any penalties, for the FIA to check pressures on the grid then do nothing about it until after the race has finished is totally farcical. If they were to DQ Lewis, they're basically saying they knew his car was illegal before the race even started but they let him drive the whole race, win it and do the podium ceremony, only to DQ him later.

I don't know what they could do during the race? They could have black flagged both Merc's I guess for being under the limits but that would probably be a bad idea.

Flibster · 6 Sep 2015 at 15:08

SS-89 said:
Pat Symonds saying that is both a technical and safety infringement and he'd expect high penalties and thus disqualification...

Well, he'd know tbh.

*cough option 13 cough*

Glaucus · 6 Sep 2015 at 15:08

Vertigo1 said:
Regardless of any penalties, for the FIA to check pressures on the grid then do nothing about it until after the race has finished is totally farcical. If they were to DQ Lewis, they're basically saying they knew his car was illegal before the race even started but they let him drive the whole race, win it and do the podium ceremony, only to DQ him later.

Thats always been an fia issue. Even if you don't decide at least put under investigation and get Mercedes to stewards during the race.

muon · 6 Sep 2015 at 15:08

So DSQ is the standard penalty.

I agree that the FIA shouldn't have let the cars go if it is a safety issue.

CaptainRAVE · 6 Sep 2015 at 15:08

Oh shut up ted. Vettel was off the pace by a mile all race. And of course smedley is biased.

Jono8 · 6 Sep 2015 at 15:09

So Massa would win if they do DQ for this tyre thing then I guess.

Glaucus · 6 Sep 2015 at 15:10

muon said:
So DSQ is the standard penalty.

Well no, there's no set presence it hasn't happened before. It's also not in the normal reg technical or sporting regs, it's in a technical directive letter.

So it depends of they believe the cars telemetry.
Then it's upto stewards what they do.

muon · 6 Sep 2015 at 15:10

Jono8 said:
So Massa would win if they do DQ for this tyre thing then I guess.

Vettel would win.

SS-89 · 6 Sep 2015 at 15:10

Jono8 said:
So Massa would win if they do DQ for this tyre thing then I guess.

? You mean Vettel, Ferrari have been cleared.

CaptainRAVE · 6 Sep 2015 at 15:10

Jono8 said:
So Massa would win if they do DQ for this tyre thing then I guess.

Surely Mercedes would take it to the courts?

MooMoo444 · 6 Sep 2015 at 15:10

Jono8 said:
So Massa would win if they do DQ for this tyre thing then I guess.

Vettels tyres were illegal also? I thought it was only the Merc

Jono8 · 6 Sep 2015 at 15:10

Edit: wrong

deuse · 6 Sep 2015 at 15:11

muon said:
So DSQ is the standard penalty.

I agree that the FIA shouldn't have let the cars go if it is a safety issue.

CaptainRAVE said:
Surely Mercedes would take it to the courts?

I would ask to have the tire pressure gauge re calibrated to see if it was out.

Jono8 · 6 Sep 2015 at 15:12

MooMoo444 said:
Vettels tyres were illegal also? I thought it was only the Merc

Oh yes. I misread the FIA report thing.

Glaucus · 6 Sep 2015 at 15:12

MooMoo444 said:
Vettels tyres were illegal also? I thought it was only the Merc

No. They were fine.

Flibster · 6 Sep 2015 at 15:12

If they team were told at 15:04 exactly, that was only 14 minutes before the race ended. Total race time was 1:18:00.688

FIA efficiency.

Jono8 · 6 Sep 2015 at 15:12

muon said:
I agree that the FIA shouldn't have let the cars go if it is a safety issue.

Indeed!

OMG SO UNSAFE - but we will let you run the whole race like it anyway and only bring it up at the end....

If it is truly a safety problem, should they not have dealt with it then and there?

CaptainRAVE · 6 Sep 2015 at 15:13

Hamilton pretty relaxed. As he should be, it makes no difference to him if he is DQ'd. He is still miles ahead and is absolutely dominating at the moment.