Poll: Italian Grand Prix 2019, Monza - Race 14/21

[Kanpai]

Really?

Given that Mercedes struggled in testing, admitting they were not fast enough. Ending up behind Ferrari and Red Bull. No complaints about the tyres at that point either...

Mercedes win... surprisingly. Then win some more through being reliable when Ferrari make an arse of it...

But the tyres are unfair.... Waaaaaaaah!

I notice that complaint has vanished again as well.

Mercedes were never struggling pre season or in testing, they just never showed their true hand at all, are you seriously still falling for that?

Also I meant after 2 or 3 races in it was clear that they were still the team to beat this season and it's been proven. Monza and Spa Ferrari have had the edge as they are high speed circuits but I expect normal service to be resumed in Singapore in two weeks.

For the sake of keeping things interesting though I hope Red Bull give them a good fight there, I doubt Ferrari will be able to.

 

[CaptainRAVE]

I look forward to Hamilton running Leclerc off the road down the line. That’s if ferrari get close enough in the remaining races that rely on downforce.

Vettel out soon?

 

[MissChief]

I look forward to Hamilton running Leclerc off the road down the line. That’s if ferrari get close enough in the remaining races that rely on downforce.

Vettel out soon?

He doesn't seem to be enjoying it as much as he used to. And he's already proven he doesn't like being challenged and beaten. He ran away from Red Bull when Ricciardo started getting the better of him and now that Leclerc is getting the better of him at Ferrari he's suddenly out of love with F1 again. I can't see him going back to Red Bull, Max is no.1 there and will be for a long time, so unless he drops down to a midfield car he's stuck. Or maybe goes to Mercedes in a swap deal with Hamilton? Stranger things have happened.

 

[Steampunk]

Calm down. You wanted a penalty to get your man ahead. It didn't happen.
No one is going to die because of this.

Sick of the "think of the children" style argument in F1. People don't like racing.

Ironic coming from a week where one person died, one's in a coma in hospital, and one was lucky to get off with a broken vertebrae. You slacken off on safety at your peril.

I dunno about you, but I watched Senna die live on TV, and that's not an experience I'd like to repeat.

 

[mmj_uk]

Leclerc basically being allowed to take a shortcut across the first chicane to cancel out his mistake was more annoying to me than pushing Hamilton off the road. If the stewards aren't going to do their jobs then they need to just bring back natural punishments for driver errors, ie. gravel traps etc. Falling off the track due to bad driving shouldn't be something that's no slower than taking the corner normally and it certainly shouldn't be allowed to enable drivers to keep from losing their position, this is supposed to be the pinnacle of motorsport.

 

[Nasher]

Vettel was so lucky not to get T boned. That could have been serious.

 

[Kanpai]

Vettel was so lucky not to get T boned. That could have been serious.

Very dangerous, should have been given a black flag to be honest.

 

[JBeck]

He doesn't seem to be enjoying it as much as he used to. And he's already proven he doesn't like being challenged and beaten. He ran away from Red Bull when Ricciardo started getting the better of him and now that Leclerc is getting the better of him at Ferrari he's suddenly out of love with F1 again. I can't see him going back to Red Bull, Max is no.1 there and will be for a long time, so unless he drops down to a midfield car he's stuck. Or maybe goes to Mercedes in a swap deal with Hamilton? Stranger things have happened.

I don't think there is anywhere for him to go except home, his days are done at a race track.

 

[mjt]

Leclerc basically being allowed to take a shortcut across the first chicane to cancel out his mistake was more annoying to me than pushing Hamilton off the road. If the stewards aren't going to do their jobs then they need to just bring back natural punishments for driver errors, ie. gravel traps etc. Falling off the track due to bad driving shouldn't be something that's no slower than taking the corner normally and it certainly shouldn't be allowed to enable drivers to keep from losing their position, this is supposed to be the pinnacle of motorsport.

This was a Ferrari. At Monza.

 

[englishpremier]

This was a Ferrari. At Monza.

How does that matter the Stewards aren't Italian nor live in Italy, nor have to give interviews or talk to newspapers. Why would Derrick Warrick care any more about Monza than he would Bahrain

 

[CSMonkeh]

Oh dear stewards bottled it with Leclerc....
Run a driver off AND cut a corner.

Fair play to Leclerc he otherwise drove brilliantly.
They did say the floodgates will open - Hill had a similar thing when he won in Hungary ‘93 then won next 2 races...

But yeah consistency please

 

[Terminal_Boy]

What does a Ferrari driver have to do to be penalised at Monza?

Crank one out over a phot of the Pope?

 

[413x]

Good race.

Vettel is gone. No one is going to take want him down the grid. And surely he won't want to go anywhere like that either. Time to call it a a day.

Ferrari definitely got off being ferrari at monza.

Great race for Renault. Yep, an actual good race! Especially the overtake on vettel at start and not letting albon through. How are Renault so good around these high circuits?

 

[cu3ed]

10mins into the race catching up. Is the director special needs?

 

[Terminal_Boy]

I look forward to Hamilton running Leclerc off the road down the line. That’s if ferrari get close enough in the remaining races that rely on downforce.

Vettel out soon?

Who would they replace him with?

 

[Muska]

An above average Monza for me, voted a 6.

The stewarding this weekend has marred the whole race weekend for me. I hope we see a return to consistent application of their decisions moving forwards.

 

[Terminal_Boy]

An above average Monza for me, voted a 6.

The stewarding this weekend has marred the whole race weekend for me. I hope we see a return to consistent application of their decisions moving forwards.

Agreed. Apply penalties equally or not at all.

Or have gravel traps and armco start at the other edge of the white track limit line everywhere.

 

[utajoker]

Just caught up.

Some dodgy driving, some dodgy stewarding.

I think I only saw 1 top speed comparison when Leclerc And ham Where racing down the main straight. I think hams top speed was lower than ferrari even with Drs. The overtake was never on and I think the TV crew new so didn't show them.

Ferrari won but still lose ground in the constructors, time for vettel to make way.


Bottas is just not a Mercedes driver. Ham was withing a second of leclerc for most of the race, Bottas on better tyres can't even get in Drs and when he does he messes up.

 

[JBeck]

Who would they replace him with?

A better turd?

 

[JBeck]

Bottas is just not a Mercedes driver. Ham was withing a second of leclerc for most of the race, Bottas on better tyres can't even get in Drs and when he does he messes up.

Same old same old, and we have to put up with him being pretty useless the rest of this year and the next, oh joy