I've been had... (Xcade)

MrRockliffe · 13 Sep 2018 at 09:54

Zatoichi.uK said:
Oh and MrRockliffe. The guy was the manager of the industrial park, not of xcade. He's also out of pocket from missed rent and equally annoyed. Will look at action fraud thanks.

Ah okay, my bad. Deffo look into it. I would check out AVForums disputes section in the classifieds - a few people have had success going through action fraud, so it may be worth getting in touch with them to ask about how they did it etc

Zatoichi.uK · 13 Sep 2018 at 10:16

Logged with banks fraud team. They were surprisingly helpful and it's a start I guess. Will follow up with action fraud if needed too.

Live and learn eh!

montymint · 13 Sep 2018 at 11:01

Hmm i have an xcade and had no problems. Although i want through the reseller and waited 8+ weeks as a leadtime.

Where are you based?

Zatoichi.uK · 13 Sep 2018 at 11:04

montymint said:
Hmm i have an xcade and had no problems. Although i want through the reseller and waited 8+ weeks as a leadtime.

Where are you based?

Yeah people that bought through Arcadeworld, extreme hardware on Ebay etc. had no issues other than a wait. Seems he's shut up shop for whatever reason and tried to take as much with him as he can.

Based in Herts.

Firestar_3x · 13 Sep 2018 at 11:19

montymint said:
Hmm i have an xcade and had no problems. Although i want through the reseller and waited 8+ weeks as a leadtime.

Where are you based?

Me either and i ordered during the Christmas rush (did get the last cabinet though direct from ArcadeWorld).

mmj_uk · 13 Sep 2018 at 11:26

wolfie138 said:
i'm sure other people are not as well-off as you to be so blase about losing over two hundred quid.

He's well off enough to be sending some bloke he doesn't know £225 for an arcade machine he doesn't need. It's not going to be easy or cheap to get the money back, even if he goes to court and wins the half the time hardcore scammers still won't pay.

Zatoichi.uK · 13 Sep 2018 at 11:58

That's the weird thing though. He's run a business quite sucessfully it seems for at least a couple of years and has the best selling cabinet on the most known arcade parts supplier in the UK. I admit it was foolish to send a direct payment as it's left me with little to no options, but I was in communications with the guy for a while and he seemed to be trying to expand etc. As I said, live and learn I should have known better really. I'm certainly not the only one he's done it to having read up on things.

wolfie138 · 13 Sep 2018 at 12:01

mmj_uk said:
He's well off enough to be sending some bloke he doesn't know £225 for an arcade machine he doesn't need. It's not going to be easy or cheap to get the money back, even if he goes to court and wins the half the time hardcore scammers still won't pay.

i'm sure no else but you knows every single person they send money to. every ebayer, amazon seller etc etc.

d_brennen · 13 Sep 2018 at 12:06

Zatoichi.uK said:
That's the weird thing though. He's run a business quite sucessfully it seems for at least a couple of years and has the best selling cabinet on the most known arcade parts supplier in the UK. I admit it was foolish to send a direct payment as it's left me with little to no options, but I was in communications with the guy for a while and he seemed to be trying to expand etc. As I said, live and learn I should have known better really. I'm certainly not the only one he's done it to having read up on things.

There's a gap in the market then
/dons sheepskin coat

ttaskmaster · 13 Sep 2018 at 12:26

As a private individual, can you hire a bailiff or debt recovery agency perhaps?

Zatoichi.uK · 13 Sep 2018 at 12:29

I've gone through my bank first and it wasn't as doubtful as I first thought. Fingers crossed and if that fails I will pursue other means.

Azza · 13 Sep 2018 at 13:17

ttaskmaster said:
As a private individual, can you hire a bailiff or debt recovery agency perhaps?

I presume if you go through small claims, he'll get a notification of it, if he doesn't turn up at court then they'll take on the recovery themselves.

Ugley_Matt · 14 Sep 2018 at 01:26

May be worth posting here http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/

Ugley_Matt · 14 Sep 2018 at 01:28

Or get down Wickes and get some wood and get cutting

dowie · 14 Sep 2018 at 07:37

Azza said:
I presume if you go through small claims, he'll get a notification of it, if he doesn't turn up at court then they'll take on the recovery themselves.

Probs a waste of time if he's shut the business down? I mean assuming it is a ltd company and he's not operating as a sole trader.

Zatoichi.uK · 16 Sep 2018 at 13:55

Okay I've found him and the running to France story is clearly BS. He's closed down the old website and is now operating under the name "Arcade evolution". He's gone from selling only arcade kits with xplates, which is basically 2mm plexiglass with the graphics printed on the inside (they are the only people in the world that do this) to selling fully loaded arcades including PCs, games, joysticks and buttons etc.

Here's the link which descibes xplates without calling them xplates which is how I know it's them, aside from the cabs being identical of course.
https://arcade-evolution.com/features/

Website:https://arcade-evolution.com/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/arcadeevolutionuk/

Grunge edition pacman cab under xcade.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/XCADE-B1...Man-Grunge-2-Player-Kit-MAME-Pi-/112951905989

Grunge edition pacman cab under arcade evolution.
https://arcade-evolution.com/product/ae19b-pacman/

Even the model numbers are similar, i.e B19C to AE19B as well as U24S to AE24U.

They seem to be operating out of Sutton Coldfield now.

26 Beeches Walk
Sutton Coldfield
B73 6HN

Destination · 16 Sep 2018 at 14:04

Was the payment to a business account or his personal account.
I’d ring him.
If he doesn’t want to xfer and process your order or refund you, then small claims against him directly if it was a personal account.

Zatoichi.uK · 16 Sep 2018 at 14:12

I'm not sure which as it was just an account number and sort code I was given. Likely his personal I guess.

Diagro · 17 Sep 2018 at 00:37

Small claims. Cite him personally. If he doesn't pay he will get a CCJ which will really hurt him more than repaying £225

Resistance · 17 Sep 2018 at 02:46

This is a scam I have seem it before they set up a website pick a address in the uk but ask money to be sent to a bank account by transfer

I've been had... (Xcade)

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