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Hello,

I was considering a few estate cars as my next one if at all my Mondeo comes with a huge bill in the next MOT and I would rather swap it. One of the options is a Jaguar XF Sportbrake, the 2014/15 model with 3.0d V6.

I couldn't find more information on it regarding the water leak in the boot which appears to be common in the saloon version. Does anyone know if this is common in the Sportbrake too?

Not considering the Euro 6 version because of the Oil dilution issue and it is beyond my budget anyway. My weekly travel is about 110 miles, mostly motorway. I am aware of the 2.0d Ingenium engine issues plus I want more power in the next car hence any 2.0d engines are out of consideration.

Cheers..
 
You are right to avoid the ingenium engine.

The 3.0d is the more reliable of the diesel engines.

Boot leaking isn't as common as the saloon, seems that when they do it's to do with some vent or something
 
I have owned a XF 3.0 for the last six years and driven c. 70,000 miles and it truly is an excellent car. The engine mated with the ZF gearbox is very smooth and in terms of power, there really isn't much more power you need on the road, it kind of hits the sweet spot of being just right.

I have the Premium Luxury facelift which is still fresh and not dated, thanks to the relatively insignificant design changes by Jaguar on the newer models since. I can't be sure what was standard or extras in mine but it has fully electric, heated and memory seats, sat nav, auto lights and wipers, folding mirrors, reverse camera, LED indicators and lights etc.

Budget for belt change at c. 90,000 miles (if I recall correctly) and gearbox oil flush which I did at about 110,000 miles (this is not serviceable item from Jaguars perspective, however from my research online I deemed it worthwhile to do).

Any other questions, ask away.

I've just had it serviced at a specialist before I put it up for sale. With Jaguar specialists, the prices vary significantly. I'm not sure why but just ringing around the price for a major service varies from £260 to £430. So do a bit research, find a well reputed one but thankfully local to where I am they are all highly rated and passionate about Jaguar.
 
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A friend has just had to take their 3.0 petrol XJ in after both fuel pumps started leaking and an issue with oil dilution. Noticed after it randomly started chugging or refusing to start, then threw a CEL. Not even reached 100k miles.
 
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Nasher said:
A friend has just had to take their 3.0 petrol XJ in after both fuel pumps started leaking and an issue with oil dilution. Noticed after it randomly started chugging or refusing to start, then threw a CEL. Not even reached 100k miles.
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Oil dilution on a petrol? It's normally failed diesel DPF regens that cause dilution? Never heard of it on a petrol.
 
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Yep it stank of petrol. Jag reckoned the pumps leaked in to the oil, but obviously that isn't the case lol.
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Yes this is possible, unfortunately it is a by product of direct injection systems.

VW tsi/ tfsi engines can suffer the same fate, on our 18 year old Audi it's done 110k miles and had 2 high pressure pumps installed due to leaking seals.

It seems fairly common on the jags aswell

Luckily it doesn't appear to be a difficult job on a Jag if you've got access to some ramps
 
sx_turbo said:
Yes this is possible, unfortunately it is a by product of direct injection systems.

VW tsi/ tfsi engines can suffer the same fate, on our 18 year old Audi it's done 110k miles and had 2 high pressure pumps installed due to leaking seals.

It seems fairly common on the jags aswell

Luckily it doesn't appear to be a difficult job on a Jag if you've got access to some ramps
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The problem is if you don't notice it for a while it can cause excessive wear on the engine's internals.
 
What do I need to know if buying a 2023+ I-Pace R-Dynamic HSE Black? Mrs HB has decided she prefers this to the Tesla MYLR and I like the look of it, cheaper to run in terms of insurance quotes but the JLR reliability rumour has grasped me, and the range seems less (Circa 200-230 miles VS circa 300-330 for the Tesla)

I’ve had a look on the ipace forum, there seems to be plenty of issues but no one is going to post when things are good. JLR support seems dire, but then so does Tesla.

Any advice?
 
HoneyBadger said:
What do I need to know if buying a 2023+ I-Pace R-Dynamic HSE Black? Mrs HB has decided she prefers this to the Tesla MYLR and I like the look of it, cheaper to run in terms of insurance quotes but the JLR reliability rumour has grasped me, and the range seems less (Circa 200-230 miles VS circa 300-330 for the Tesla)

I’ve had a look on the ipace forum, there seems to be plenty of issues but no one is going to post when things are good. JLR support seems dire, but then so does Tesla.

Any advice?
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Ask in the 'when are you going electric' thread, there's a few I Pace owners in there.
 
TS7 said:
I have owned a XF 3.0 for the last six years and driven c. 70,000 miles and it truly is an excellent car. The engine mated with the ZF gearbox is very smooth and in terms of power, there really isn't much more power you need on the road, it kind of hits the sweet spot of being just right.

I have the Premium Luxury facelift which is still fresh and not dated, thanks to the relatively insignificant design changes by Jaguar on the newer models since. I can't be sure what was standard or extras in mine but it has fully electric, heated and memory seats, sat nav, auto lights and wipers, folding mirrors, reverse camera, LED indicators and lights etc.

Budget for belt change at c. 90,000 miles (if I recall correctly) and gearbox oil flush which I did at about 110,000 miles (this is not serviceable item from Jaguars perspective, however from my research online I deemed it worthwhile to do).

Any other questions, ask away.

I've just had it serviced at a specialist before I put it up for sale. With Jaguar specialists, the prices vary significantly. I'm not sure why but just ringing around the price for a major service varies from £260 to £430. So do a bit research, find a well reputed one but thankfully local to where I am they are all highly rated and passionate about Jaguar.
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Thank you for the detailed info mate. I presume you had the Sportbrake too. I am looking at cars with FSH and if the Cam belt is done even better. Have to admit the way the Sportbrake sits it does look really nice in the S spec.

A naughty voice in my head does say XJ but I am keeping it as 4th option in my list. ;)
 
HoneyBadger said:
What do I need to know if buying a 2023+ I-Pace R-Dynamic HSE Black? Mrs HB has decided she prefers this to the Tesla MYLR and I like the look of it, cheaper to run in terms of insurance quotes but the JLR reliability rumour has grasped me, and the range seems less (Circa 200-230 miles VS circa 300-330 for the Tesla)

I’ve had a look on the ipace forum, there seems to be plenty of issues but no one is going to post when things are good. JLR support seems dire, but then so does Tesla.

Any advice?
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The earlier (2021-2022) model year i-paces have a bit more spec; some of it got deleted due to the chip shortage. Things like the 360 camera bit the dust on the later models.

Otherwise - most of the faults appeared to have been ironed out by the later cars. Certainly go for the newer Pivi Pro models; they're late 2020 onward. You can spot them because the rear seats are 40/20/40 split, not 60/40.
I think the usual adage with forums applies; the happy customers don't go and fill threads with gleeful posts. But the folks with an axe to grind will crack on. It does sound like the i-pace is generally a good car, but if it needs repair then the dealers are a bit overstretched.
 
HoneyBadger said:
What do I need to know if buying a 2023+ I-Pace R-Dynamic HSE Black? Mrs HB has decided she prefers this to the Tesla MYLR and I like the look of it, cheaper to run in terms of insurance quotes but the JLR reliability rumour has grasped me, and the range seems less (Circa 200-230 miles VS circa 300-330 for the Tesla)

I’ve had a look on the ipace forum, there seems to be plenty of issues but no one is going to post when things are good. JLR support seems dire, but then so does Tesla.

Any advice?
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I've had my MY21 car now since March last year and its been great. Not been back to the dealer since I got it and nothing needed other than a new set of tyres. The Pivi Pro system is good, but mine lives mainly in wireless Carplay mode, sound system on the HSE (Meridian Full Surround) is very good. Plenty of space inside, boot isn't quite as big as you'd think but is big enough for 4 people going to Download with all our bags, chairs and other rubbish dumped in it. Charging I do 99.9% at home but with a little planning and awareness the public charging network is good enough, we did a week in Brean last week and got there visit every where we wanted and used a set of Ionity chargers nearby to chuck 30-40 minutes of charge in first thing. Other than being slower than more modern cars to charge at high speed it worked perfectly.

In terms of drive, it drives like all the other Jags I've owned so very well, its heavy but it handles well and is has significant punch when needed. Only thing to note is its very wide which can make parking tight in spaces, but you get used to that.
 
LowEndTorque said:
Thank you for the detailed info mate. I presume you had the Sportbrake too. I am looking at cars with FSH and if the Cam belt is done even better. Have to admit the way the Sportbrake sits it does look really nice in the S spec.

A naughty voice in my head does say XJ but I am keeping it as 4th option in my list. ;)
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I recently took the plunge and bought an X250 3.0D Portfolio XFS facelift model after doing what seemed like months of research. Apparently, the 3.0 unit is reasonably reliable, but not as reliable as the 2.2, who want's a 2.2 diesel Jaaag though? You'll need to budget for the obvious things like cambelt and general servicing. However, there is always the chance the inlet manifolds may crack causing the car to go into limp mode, this generally happens when they get to around the 100k mark. Unfortunately, it's an expensive job, circa £1500-£2000 to get fixed. There's also the well-known washer bottle wiring issue, where water wicks up the wiring and can cause a multitude of electrical issues. This is something I still need to get checked on my car. I'm still in the honeymoon period with mine though, it's a lovely thing that does wafting extremely well :D

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Nice,
coupe69 said:
I recently took the plunge and bought an X250 3.0D Portfolio XFS facelift model after doing what seemed like months of research. Apparently, the 3.0 unit is reasonably reliable, but not as reliable as the 2.2, who want's a 2.2 diesel Jaaag though? You'll need to budget for the obvious things like cambelt and general servicing. However, there is always the chance the inlet manifolds may crack causing the car to go into limp mode, this generally happens when they get to around the 100k mark. Unfortunately, it's an expensive job, circa £1500-£2000 to get fixed. There's also the well-known washer bottle wiring issue, where water wicks up the wiring and can cause a multitude of electrical issues. This is something I still need to get checked on my car. I'm still in the honeymoon period with mine though, it's a lovely thing that does wafting extremely well :D

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I recently bought the same in grey.
I had to take mine back to where I bought it afer 2 weeks as the inlet manifold was cracked plus some other things. 1 quote I had for just the inlet manifolds was over £3000! They garage I bought it from fixed it all and so far she's running well.
Few niggles: Seat belt tensioner seems far to keen to tug, no indicator sounds (which is good as the seatbelt off noise doesn't sound either and I think they are connected), stone chips and scuffs I will work on. Never ever had an interest in Jags but this time for whatever reason I needed an XFS. Had her stage 1 remapped too so she's at a bout 320/645. They discovered the DPF has been scraped out too.
 
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dlockers said:
Is there a proper answer for aftermarket headunit? The key bug bear I had was how aweful the touch screen was (even on later models).
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On my (now sold) pre-facelift X250 with the Denso head unit, there wasn't any real upgrade path that I could find.

On the Bosch head units, on the facelift ones, I think you can retrofit android auto or carplay. These don't help with the touch screen, but might make things a little more manageable!
 
Klunt Bumskrint said:
Had her stage 1 remapped too so she's at a bout 320/645. They discovered the DPF has been scraped out too.
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How have you found the remap, did you get the gearbox done at the same time? My only slight bugbear is that it seems to hold it in gear for too long when it kicks down, this is only emphasised in sports/dynamic mode.
 
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