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January 9 Launch Date for AMD Radeon HD 7900
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Caporegime
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I personally wouldn't buy and have been saying as much for most people for a while now. It depends, there are some situations it wouldn't matter, someone was selling a 580gtx to move to 560ti sli, while the 560's would cost more now, he'll also get more for his 580gtx now and the difference isn't likely to be much in a couple months, as he'll get less for his 580gtx, but spend less on the 560ti's.
Then you've got people who have maybe a card die after warranty and need a card now, they are stuck in probably the most difficult situation, no gaming/no gpu for a while, or buying something to get by for a month, or just buying something good now.
If you are desparate to go Nvidia and want single card and really high performance, its very hard to guess where 570/580gtx pricing will be as Nvidia has a track record of maintaining decent prices on higher end cards just to have something "high end" available.
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Listen to this guy GURU - he knows what he's talking about. A lot more than that guy ALXAndy that you listened to on your thread, that blindingly loves his MSI 6970....
Cancel the order man.
Soldato
Depends. If they are faster than Nvidia's line up then Nvidia will probably drop prices to suit. Remember, every FPS has a price on it. Price to performance, you pay for it, no matter what the card or who makes it.
Personally I think Nvidia should be dropping their prices already. But with AMD failing to push them to it they ain't gonna bother.
The way things went with the 6 series and Bulldozer I would say no, they won't. They won't have much reason to really.
Sure, some of the 6 series are good cards and do the job at hand, but they ain't cheap. You pay for it.
Like AMD Nvidia have a marketing department who will price products to suit, so a high end GPU will always command top dollar (usually £400).
Just remember, GPU makers are in this for the money, not to come along like Robin Hood and give us all blisteringly fast products for nothing. It doesn't work like that.
If these AMD cards turn out to be anywhere near as good as people are guessing them to be (because nothing is factual it's all hearsay) then you will pay for it.
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Also latest piece of info is the 7950 will have custom done PCB's and heatsinks potentially right from launch.
We'll have to see exactly how that works out, 7970 with meh blower from launch, and 7950 available within days of the 7970 with fancy better quieter non blower fans....... can only hope. Fancy models with unlockable shaders, probably not, too much wishful thinking unless yields are fantastic, not particularly likely. Could be that AIB's have the option for their own pcb's and coolers but will take a month or two to get production going and just do default ones to start with, or maybe they've had long enough to do their own. That is actually quite likely with most reports being that these cards were essentially designed, ready, finalised and ready to launch from September, just waiting on cores to be made from TSMC which took longer than hoped.
I'd actually kill to be able to buy a basically silent well cooled gpu from release, rather than voiding warrantys to do one unless you wait months for custom models to come out.
We'll have to see exactly how that works out, 7970 with meh blower from launch, and 7950 available within days of the 7970 with fancy better quieter non blower fans....... can only hope. Fancy models with unlockable shaders, probably not, too much wishful thinking unless yields are fantastic, not particularly likely. Could be that AIB's have the option for their own pcb's and coolers but will take a month or two to get production going and just do default ones to start with, or maybe they've had long enough to do their own. That is actually quite likely with most reports being that these cards were essentially designed, ready, finalised and ready to launch from September, just waiting on cores to be made from TSMC which took longer than hoped.
I'd actually kill to be able to buy a basically silent well cooled gpu from release, rather than voiding warrantys to do one unless you wait months for custom models to come out.
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Yes and no, if that did happen either they'd run out of stock, or they'd reduce the 7 series prices, this is generally why the 7 series cards can't be significantly worse in terms of price/performance over the 6xxx series, because it makes no logical sense at all despite some people insisting, against all history or all releases of all cards ever, that new cards will simply be priced against current pricing of the current gen.
Realistically last gen the 5870/50 made great buys, as did the 470gtx, because the new gen was such a small increase in performance that the somewhat normal EOL pricing as with other generations, meant a £120 5850 was FAR better value than a £200 6950 which wasn't close to the almost 70% faster it needed to be to be price/performance on par with the 5850.
This gen though, if a 7950 is 80% faster than a 6950, if a 6950 drops to the £120-130 range, and a 7950 is £220 and 70-80% faster, they have similar price/performance.
If you have £200 to spend then you'd be better off with a new gen, if you have £130 then you have new performance at that price point, and with a 7870, likely in the £150 range, you again have a good alternative to last gen cards with similar price/performance.
Soldato
If AMD do launch their 28nm 7000 series on the 9th then that's good going as they did say Q4 2011 so that's not much of slip. I do wonder if the green machine has a surprise waiting though as they were due to launch Kepler in 2011......
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cos I'll probably get peanuts for my 5850...500 Euro for a 7970 anybody?
Faster than a 580 and almost 6990 level I think the price is fair.
Nvidias cards will be in the same ballpark.
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Nvidia's cards will be in the same ballpark, I doubt the 7970 will be, its probably, and hopefully silly games AMD are playing early to keep Nvidia in the dark. If not, hopefully the 7950 will still be a huge amount cheaper and less of a pee take. We'll see I guess, we should also hear from decent sources why the prices if there are prices. if 28nm wafers cost 40% more, then we're screwed but I haven't heard of any increases close to that.
Soldato
Yay good news. My 5850 was a good buy but is now getting old. I want an upgrade!
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I know how you feel, I probably dont need a graphics upgrade, but I havent bought a new graphics card for 2 years, which is rather unusual. Dam this itch!
Soldato
I would.