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January 9 Launch Date for AMD Radeon HD 7900

drunkenmaster said:
$349 is 225, which with vat is £270.

There is no price gouging, no 10% extra, no £150 extra, nothing.

We very often have bang on identical prices to the states, you can't randomly call vat as somehow being ripped off. They pay sales tax, just lots of easier ways around it. We pay tax one place, they pay it in another.

Rip off britain is ALWAYS brought up in these threads and its almost exclusively incorrect.

Also, the poster quite clearly put the uk price INC vat so no, you don't have to then add vat to it.

There is potential for prices to be that high, it will be down to cost of production more than anything else, supply doesn't influence RRP(very very rarely), how often is a tv launched at £999rrp, suddenly £1300 in stores when they are low on stock or struggling, answer, rarely if ever.

OCUK do it because uk enthusiasts seem to be incapable of showing any patience at all, most uk computing stores do it, its laughable really. If customers stop buying above rrp, they will stop selling above those prices, its not very complicated.

Yields are less of a reason to go up in cost, but a valid one, AMD/Intel rarely decide to sell something for £300 than adjust it down as yields go up over time, you simply factor in making a little less profit to start with and a little more later on.

The 5870 was more expensive than a 4870 because it was 20-30% bigger(realistically comparing to a 4890 is a better comparison which was 10% bigger than a 4870), this is also while the dollar crashed from $2/£1 to $1.50/£1.

Wafer costs by all accounts have gone up but that doesn't effect cost of pcb/memory/SMC's and other random crap, only the GPU itself so a 20% wafer cost increase shouldn't result in a 20% graphics card cost increase, just a 20% more expensive GPU. But we don't know where yields are, again if the 5870 started off at 60% yields and ended at 80%, but 28nm is giving us 40-60% expected yields then that will drive price up as well.
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Understood and a tangible, reasoned, logical argument, however the connotations of simple supply/demand economics shouldn't be discounted in light of the market. Fact is, AMD will have the easily the fastest single chip GPU solution on the market for a number of months in the 7900 series, for which Nvidia has no response apart from some fuzzy interference they're running about being on track with their roadmap ******** ******** blah blah blah.

True performance enthusiasts (without moronic and imbecilic brand allegiances) will always go for the fastest day 1 - GTX580 being launched at this time last year is an indication of this theory - OCUK were charging £500 at launch for a card with comparatively marginal performance increases over GTX480. On this basis alone, is not a ~£400-£450 HD 7970 unreasonable until the next big thing comes along?
 
There are way too many variables to even come close to being correct for pricing estimates (apart from sheer luck) as it depends so much on the strategy AMD employ.

If I was AMD's chief marketing advisor and I knew that say the 7970 outperformed a 580 by like 20% say (just a figure nothing more) then I would charge at least 20% more. OR, I would charge only slightly more than a 580 like 5% more and clean out high end GPU sales until Kepler comes out or until Nvidia dropped the price of the 580 considerably.

My bet is on the former though...suits both companies better rather than a price slashing war.....
 
My first post on here so be gentle :P !

How much would a Q6600 bottleneck a 7950/7970?
How much would a Q6600 bottleneck a 7850/7870?

The Q6600 will obviously be overclocked.
I just want good FPS in FPS games like BF3 multiplayer/new counter-strike @ 1080p
Bear in mind I will be upgrading from a 6800 ultra lol !
 
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Already on-route, but shall only be the Daddy versions on this date, lower priced slower versions are most likely earliest end of Jan.

What I will warn you the availability shall be terrible and the pricing very high, so be pre-warned, by end of Jan I forsee prices will improve quite a bit.
 
Gibbo said:
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Already on-route, but shall only be the Daddy versions on this date, lower priced slower versions are most likely earliest end of Jan.

What I will warn you the availability shall be terrible and the pricing very high, so be pre-warned, by end of Jan I forsee prices will improve quite a bit.
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Cheers mate !

I'm sure that will help a few people who are unsure whether to buy a GPU now or wait.....
 
Gibbo said:
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Already on-route, but shall only be the Daddy versions on this date, lower priced slower versions are most likely earliest end of Jan.

What I will warn you the availability shall be terrible and the pricing very high, so be pre-warned, by end of Jan I forsee prices will improve quite a bit.
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"OCUK charges top whack in early-adopter-must-have SHOCKER - READ ALL ABOUT IT!" ;)

Understood. Can you give us any indicative pricing?
 
[WU-TANG]GZA;20797462 said:
Cheers mate !

I'm sure that will help a few people who are unsure whether to buy a GPU now or wait.....
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In fairness the 6950 2GB still the card to get, as its replacement that offers same performance but consumes less power will probably not show face until Feb/March and the cost will be similarish or at best £50 less but it could be no less, to early to predict as such.

The current GPU's have had a very good life as the 6950 2GB has been a great card, hence its sales strength.
 
Gibbo said:
In fairness the 6950 2GB still the card to get, as its replacement that offers same performance but consumes less power will probably not show face until Feb/March and the cost will be similarish or at best £50 less but it could be no less, to early to predict as such.

The current GPU's have had a very good life as the 6950 2GB has been a great card, hence its sales strength.
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I wasn't concluding one way or the other but just that knowing that the dates for the 7900 series have been confirmed properly, people timing-wise can make an informed decision, which is great!
 
Gibbo said:
Nope, we shall stop selling them, stock is now nearly all depleted. :)
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Argh! Now I really don't know what to do! LOL

Ati cards won't fit in my machine and I had planned to get a 570 but changed my mind because people said I should wait.

What do you think I should do mate? But a 570 now or wait and see what happens? Budget is about £300 but would need a new case to house ATI if they are longer than my GTX285.

Will the 580's come down?

So confused lol

Thanks in advance for any advice

Cheers,

G
 
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Guru said:
Argh! Now I really don't know what to do! LOL

Ati cards won't fit in my machine and I had planned to get a 570 but changed my mind because people said I should wait.

What do you think I should do mate? But a 570 now or wait and see what happens?

Will the 580's come down?

So confused lol

Thanks in advance for and advice

Cheers,

G
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Buy an MSI 560 "448 Edition" and overclock it. :)

Or wait until Feb/March as by then all new ATI lines should be out, unsure on NV though.
 
Out of all the speculation around atm, any idea if the 7970 perform better than say... gtx470's in sli?

I wouldn't mind having the same performance, just need somthing which doesn't generate a huge amount of heat and draws a stupid amount of power.

Any guesses?

Plus I can always get another when the prices come down. ;-)
 
Gibbo said:
;)

Already on-route, but shall only be the Daddy versions on this date, lower priced slower versions are most likely earliest end of Jan.

What I will warn you the availability shall be terrible and the pricing very high, so be pre-warned, by end of Jan I forsee prices will improve quite a bit.
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Thanks for the heads up - much appreciated. Like many, I'm in the wanting to upgrade from my trusty 5850 brigade, but I can probably hang on until Feb/March.
 
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