** January Transfer Window 2011/12 Season Rumours/Signings **

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I'm sorry but how was that off topic :confused:

Surely an injury to an area that already needs strengthening is worthy of mention in the transfer thread?

But all the shirt deal crap didn't get deleted...
 
that ought to have been deleted too, the other stuff I deleted was just going over gorund covered many times already and has no direct bearing on any new transfer stuff
 
Just another reason why Anderson can't be relied upon, his injury record. Seems to get at least one serious knee injury a season in recent years (well this and last at least)

I'm sure Fergie's comments about there being 2 or 3 players who aren't available will be dissected every way possible but I can't see see it being a smoke screen, I really can't see us buying anyone in January even if it means we forfeit the major honours this season
 
Lille want £43m for Hazard :eek:

Chelsea, City or Real then :/

Crazy money for him, hes a good player, impressive against CSKA Moscow the other night but dont think hes worth that much. I know Arsenal have been linked with him but if thats what Lille want then it definitely rules out for sure. No way Wenger or Arsenal will spend that much on one player...if they do then ill gladly eat my boxers:p
 
http://sport.uk.msn.com/football/articles.aspx?cp-documentid=159904841

Shocker! Player holds out for far too much money :p


On another note a friend of mine is the son of a ex-Newcastle player (they both go to all the games on free tickets) knocks about with a few of the players. Word from inside the club is that Tiote will be at Chelski in January and Guthrie is off to Villa. :rolleyes: In typical FCB style Cashley has.......... no one lined up to replace them and apparently Pardew has been told he has to sell to buy :rolleyes: Im pretty worried because whenever he tells me anything is going to happen it happens. :(


lolololololololololololololololololoololollllllll I knew things were going to well :D:p:D:(
 
Crazy money for him, hes a good player, impressive against CSKA Moscow the other night but dont think hes worth that much. I know Arsenal have been linked with him but if thats what Lille want then it definitely rules out for sure. No way Wenger or Arsenal will spend that much on one player...if they do then ill gladly eat my boxers:p

I think thats the "you have the cheek to buy Gervinho, then snake our good price replacement at the last second screwing our transfer window completely" pricing for Arsenal alone frankly ;)

Wenger won't buy him, he chickens out of big price deals, 15mil on AOC who he won't even play for 4 years, sure, 20-25mil on Hazard who could make a noticeable improvement today...... The fact that AOC could stay at Southampton for 2-3 years till he was ready and still wouldn't cost more than 15mil anyway, or if he went crap we simply wouldn't buy him or whatever. Wenger's mental.

Just another reason why Anderson can't be relied upon, his injury record. Seems to get at least one serious knee injury a season in recent years (well this and last at least)

I'm sure Fergie's comments about there being 2 or 3 players who aren't available will be dissected every way possible but I can't see see it being a smoke screen, I really can't see us buying anyone in January even if it means we forfeit the major honours this season

Honestly City just have the best squad in the league by a mile. left/right and one CB i'd take City, the whole of midfield pretty much and upfront too I'd take City players before Utd. Sure City can screw up, who can't but they've got far more depth than most and could still have a stronger first eleven with a probably 2 first team midfielders and strikers out than any other team.

For Utd to get on par with them in the transfer window you're looking at 3 central mids at least, prob one offensive, one defensive and one cover for both, a left back since Evra has been horrific and the others simply aren't reliable, and strikers. berbatov is fantastic but you guys won't play him, Hernandez is good at what he does, but thats very very little and compared to City. Well Balotelli had gotten goals out of nothing for his team , Hernandez hasn't.

The bigger improvement you can make is definitely central midfield, but if you got in Sneidjer, the team wouldn't be that much closer to City in quality ,and if he got injured you'd still be screwed.

It's City's to throw away this season, the squad they put together is VASTLY better than the team Chelsea had. Chelsea's first 11 when they had Duff at his best and Robben at his best, was very good, but their depth was awful back then as well. City have a stronger first 11 and a massively stronger second 11 than Chelsea have ever had.

Anderson has some of the best stats and performances of all our center midfielders - so how could it make us stronger ?

Anderson is not good, he's less good now, having had plenty of years to improve, than Cleverley who still has a lot of improving to do and time to get even better. The fact that Carrick and Fletcher barely belong in the league, doesn't make Anderson "good", just makes him better than them....... which isn't saying much of anything.
 
Have to lol at DM and his love of Darren Bent but his hate of Javier Hernandez :o

Bent, a striker for a not top 4 team, probably on 60k a week or something.

Hernandez, probably on more than that now, being talked about as the bestest finisher in the world ever. if you've watched Villa play, Bent isn't a top notch passer and interplay guy,but he isn't bad either and he offers more than Hernandez. The thing is for a TOP team looking to win a title(Bent hasn't ever been at a club like that) Hernandez offers ONE thing when a dozen other strikers are exactly as good at poaching and offer VASTLY more to their game.

Who would you take for £100k a week, Hernandez and his poaching, and utter uselessness when the team isn't doing well, or RVP, who is a better poacher over the last 18 months, and also has so so much more to his game?


If I were a Utd fan, I'd want my starting slot to be going to RVP, not Hernandez. If I were a Villa/Sunderland fan, Bent is the best natural finisher I could possibly get.

Different clubs have different ambitions, different targets and different definitions of what is the best player they can get.

Also I don't love Darren Bent, all I've said is for a long time he's been ENGLANDS best and most consistant scorer, nothing more, nothing less. Utd aren't limited to only buying English player's are they? So in what scenario is what I've said regarding Bent being a massively better choice than Crouch, Heskey, Gabby, etc FOR ENGLAND, transferable to Utd and who is good enough for them?
 
Who would you take for £100k a week, Hernandez and his poaching, and utter uselessness when the team isn't doing well, or RVP, who is a better poacher over the last 18 months, and also has so so much more to his game?


If I were a Utd fan, I'd want my starting slot to be going to RVP, not Hernandez. If I were a Villa/Sunderland fan, Bent is the best natural finisher I could possibly get.

I think you've really surpassed yourself there DM on both counts. Hernandez may not contribute much other than finishing but Hernandez has already scored either the winning or equalising goal in four league games this season, winning us 10 points. van Persie is on great form this year but he is also not a particularly cool finisher and tends to go for power over precision.

Then to say United would prefer van Persie over Hernandez? I think Barcelona are the only team in the world that would say no to van Persie at the moment, that doesn't make Hernandez a bad player. :confused:

There is also no way Hernandez is on 100k a week. Even if he's on 75k a week this season that neglects the fact that he cost £12-18m less than Darren Bent. :o Clueless as usual.
 
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Looks like Juan Agudelo is set to join Liverpool. He's tweeted that he's flying over tomorrow to start training with us.

I know nothing about him but I've seen a couple of journo's saying he's the big prospect from the MLS and the player Freddy Adu was meant to be.
 
Well for Southampton excitement we should be signing jos hooiveld who's been on loan from Celtic soon which will be awesome!

The other one going around is we want Nicky Maynard but wot pay over the odds for someone with 6 months left on their contract

Edit, shouldn't post on the train as we officially signed him today! :D part one of christmas has come early!!!
 
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Alex and Anelka have had transfer requests accepted; personally I'd like to see Arsenal make a move for Alex although whether Chelsea would sell to a potential rival for European qualification is questionable. Also I rate Alex above David Luiz but he seems to have fallen out of favour with AVB.
 
Well for Southampton excitement we should be signing jos hooiveld who's been on loan from Celtic soon which will be awesome!

The other one going around is we want Nicky Maynard but wot pay over the odds for someone with 6 months left on their contract

Edit, shouldn't post on the train as we officially signed him today! :D part one of christmas has come early!!!

Signed him? I can't see this news?

You boys need him I reckon, think your good form will probably detoriate over Christmas, being overachieving till now :p
 
I think you've really surpassed yourself there DM on both counts. Hernandez may not contribute much other than finishing but Hernandez has already scored either the winning or equalising goal in four league games this season, winning us 10 points. van Persie is on great form this year but he is also not a particularly cool finisher and tends to go for power over precision.

Then to say United would prefer van Persie over Hernandez? I think Barcelona are the only team in the world that would say no to van Persie at the moment, that doesn't make Hernandez a bad player. :confused:

There is also no way Hernandez is on 100k a week. Even if he's on 75k a week this season that neglects the fact that he cost £12-18m less than Darren Bent. :o Clueless as usual.

Actually yet again its you thats clueless, what on earth has Bent's fee got to do with anything?

Fabregas cost us 200k or so, Barca bought him for a fee that gets Arsenal around 40mil total. The same player, fee's mean NOTHING, they aren't an indication of anything, and your refusal to discuss the point and rely on arbitrary nonsense to suggest I'm clueless is really the general argument from anyone on here who has no point.


Again, if you missed the point, lets say he's on 75k, that is 75k you CAN'T pay another player, who could offer a LOT MORE to the team than Hernandez.

Option A spend 75k on a guy who can only poach, who is useless against the top teams, who will look clueless if asked to do anything but tap the ball in.

option B, spend 75k on a player who can tap the ball in the net, can pass well, can be involved in the build up play, can score freekicks, take corners, cross, can do tricks, can do one of those flip type celebrations and as really good at the trumpet.

When you're talking about the biggest team in the league, and spending 75k on wages, you don't have to have a player who is incredibly limited.

Its really that simple, RVP has nothing to do with this, Barca has nothing to do with this, Bent has nothing to do with this. There are better players than Hernandez who can bring a LOT more to the team. its really that simple. Transfer fee's are unimportant, when will CLUELESS people work that out, a club can sustain safely £X amount of wages, and if a player is on 75k a week, that is 75k less a week you could spend on another player.

I don't rate Hernandez as a good footballer, in recent games his woeful passing was embarrassing, watching him try to play football when he wasn't trying to tap in was laughable for the most part. He'd pass behind players making a run down the wing, more than once I believe he, with a relatively simple pass, just put it straight out, he's been very slow and holding the ball before deciding who to pass to and often gave it away.


Poaching is the easiest part of football, the best poachers are seemingly better at poaching, because they try to do nothing else, that will help you in some games and hurt you in many other games.

Rooney showed it the other year, when he simply decided to spend all his time sitting on the back four and being a poacher, he got goals, when he decides to play football and go deeper, he can, hernandez can't. Rooney had NEVER been "prolific" once in his career, and he never JUST went after goals. The one year that is all he tried to do, he scored a load of goals. Almost any player can, in a good team, deciding to do nothing but run in behind, get lots of goals. When the rest of the team is good enough, that works great, when the rest of the team isn't good enough, that works less well, when its not going well Rooney can drop deep, help the team and maybe set up a goal, Hernandez can't.

Most players can do what Hernandez does if they negate every other part of their game, most players can't do what a Xavi, or Messi, or Ronaldo, or even a Rooney.

You can spend 75k on a better player, start a better player, and lose nothing........... seems pretty simple to me.
 
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