The spring which hit Massa wasn't exactly large.
Poll: Japanese Grand Prix 2019, Suzuka - Race 17/21
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The spring which hit Massa wasn't exactly large.
Man of Honour
The Halo was not designed to prevent incidents such as the one which happened to Massa.
Lol,
As a Renault supporter this looks like a slam dunk. What are they playing at?
They will probably exit soon.
No engine customers, a company that aims to gain a profit from f1, beaten by a customer team.
Not got much more to say
Don
Nope, it was pretty large and quite weighty, I held one in my hand shortly afterwards when in the William's factory.
Still, thats why the helmet design was changed, and has continued to do so. The lowering of the visor is quite specific to help with these kind of potential impacts.
Earlier changes were made before the latest batch too, specifically to help with a Massa type accident a composite shield placed at the top of the visor for 2010/11 I think.
The helmet designs are continually adjusted and changed to work with the cockpit design, and the halo allowed the helmet to get better at dealing with smaller high speed items and lets the halo handle the heavier larger items.
Don
Anyone know the details? At a guess from the wording, some form of automatic brake bias adjust as the race went on, to adjust for fuel use?
Seems odd, as presumably the driver are fairly used to doing this on their own and down to preference?
Hmmm
Something like that. Which, I Assume, is clearly against the rules?
Soldato
Welp, rated it 5.
10, less:
1 for modern F1 aero
1 for modern F1 drivers
1 for the bunfight in fandumb that the stewards allowed to happen re: potential penalties
1 for how even a race at Suzuka ends up dull as a particularly dull thing these days
1 for Sky coverage being ****
Roll on the next big rule change, and the possibility - however slight - that the on-track product improves enough that talk of reverse grids and other such bull**** can be consigned to the dustbin...
10, less:
1 for modern F1 aero
1 for modern F1 drivers
1 for the bunfight in fandumb that the stewards allowed to happen re: potential penalties
1 for how even a race at Suzuka ends up dull as a particularly dull thing these days
1 for Sky coverage being ****
Roll on the next big rule change, and the possibility - however slight - that the on-track product improves enough that talk of reverse grids and other such bull**** can be consigned to the dustbin...
Don
Does not compute though, why automate something so basic when the risks are so high?
Don
To close up the field, stability of the regs are needed, dimishing returns make sure of that.
Far better would be the sharing of designs for certain parts to reduce costs/development for the lower teams. Allowing them to compete on a more even field.
Rules rewrites are fun for a bit, but it just allows the big teams to out spend and out develop the smaller teams by a larger margin.
However if they do allow cars to follow (which will be nice), it will take 2-3 years for the lower teams to get closer again. Let's hope the regs remain stable or iterative after that to stop these big changes affecting spread.
Caporegime
I think they should be required to publish full technical specs a week after the race. (They'll never go for it, I know)
Don
Brawn is actually planning something similar it seems:
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/146135/teams-could-share-designs-instead-of-standard-parts
I was talking about this early in the 2018 season:
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/31699373/
Soldato
Just saw the race. Good start. Construction champions 2019!
Because it allows the driver to keep two hands on the wheel at all times, especially if he's in a battle with another driver
Don
Good point, I guess any incremental advantage is an advantage in f1
Soldato
Good race. Glad Seb's back.
I had to watch the race replay and just seen a Hamilton onboard shot. Leclerc should be getting a race ban.
Very lucky. The halo wouldn't necessarily have stopped such small objects.
Doesn't really matter. We shouldn't be testing the reliability of of helmets in a live race. Regardless it would likely have disorientated him or knocked him unconscious.
Very lucky. The halo wouldn't necessarily have stopped such small objects.
Doesn't really matter. We shouldn't be testing the reliability of of helmets in a live race. Regardless it would likely have disorientated him or knocked him unconscious.
Man of Honour
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Leclerc has turned into a real jerk. And a moany one at that.
Don
I agree, risks should be minimized, and he has since been penalised, setting a precedent. I am not saying that what he did was ok, but that the driver protection system is now very good with the halo and new helmet designs. It's not infallible, but the halo is a big step forward.
Don
A 10 second penalty is not a punishment commensurate to the risk. The precedent is that it is a 10 second gamble which might save you a long pitstop at the wrong time. A gamble that does not correctly take into account there is a very real possibility it could result in an avoidable death or serious injury of another driver. It was a completely selfish act.