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JayZ review of the 5700XT Red Devil, don't OC, Undervolt.

I’m sorry but a 8600k is an i5 6 core 6 thread.

BF loves threads... why is everyone trying to use an i5 to prove a point about an i7.

AMD gives you as many threads as you want, doesn't charge too much for it, but you can't stop screaming NO we want less cores and threads!

Why? :D
 
There's more then enough videos on Youtube with gameplay and its far from an a unplayable stutterfest some people keep banging on about.
 
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Or Forza Horizon 4 where the 5700XT matches the 2080TI, where is that?

These arguments are stupid, please don't :)



Only if you use DLSS :D

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Only if you use FidelityFX 4K Upscaling it will have blurriness mess. It not looked good as Native 4K TAA in F1 2019.

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Tell me something, whats your whole point? that you don't need more than 4 cores?

lol It has been common knowledge for quite a while that for safe, worries-free, stutter-free gaming, you need as bare minimum 6-cores/12-threads, sane recommendation is 8-cores/16-threads, and for future-proofing you may grab without worries 12-cores/24-threads.

BF loves threads..

It doesn't "love" threads. It requires processors with more cores/threads in order to execute its game engine, so you get some gameplay which is much closer to the reality than if it were limited to less of those execution resources.

I understand that intel has the interest to sell you single and dual-core for a grand, but come on.....
 
Tell me something, whats your whole point? that you don't need more than 4 cores?
You tried to prove an i7 had micro stutter by using an i5 video. That’s all I pointed out. If you don’t know the difference between an i5 and an i7, micro stutter is well above your pay grade.
 
lol It has been common knowledge for quite a while that for safe, worries-free, stutter-free gaming, you need as bare minimum 6-cores/12-threads, sane recommendation is 8-cores/16-threads, and for future-proofing you may grab without worries 12-cores/24-threads.



It doesn't "love" threads. It requires processors with more cores/threads in order to execute its game engine, so you get some gameplay which is much closer to the reality than if it were limited to less of those execution resources.

I understand that intel has the interest to sell you single and dual-core for a grand, but come on.....

Honest question.....Is this a joke post?

My 9700k ran the newest games with less than 50% usage across cores. 8 cores will suffice for quite a while.
 
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Checkout my post from earlier to get the context.
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/32953634

The point is that, on mass, Radeon owners don't have that issue with BF1/BFV and can use a 4C/8T CPU just fine.
There is a gulf between those with direct experience of such cpus and those who simply repeat what they’ve read on these very boards and link to YT videos they didn’t create.

I’m running a 2700x, I love it:D But my 7700k never struggled, not once, not ever.
 
There is a gulf between those with direct experience of such cpus and those who simply repeat what they’ve read on these very boards and link to YT videos they didn’t create.

I’m running a 2700x, I love it:D But my 7700k never struggled, not once, not ever.

Maybe you never pushed it? I, for example, test how stable the gaming is by minimising the game, running some music app in the background, and see if the framerate is still there as previously.
Not to mention streaming, etc things, other processes/jobs in the background.
 
There is a gulf between those with direct experience of such cpus and those who simply repeat what they’ve read on these very boards and link to YT videos they didn’t create.

I’m running a 2700x, I love it:D But my 7700k never struggled, not once, not ever.
Most will see the irony in your post :p


It's a false equivalence to suggest that one has to "experience it" to "know it exist".
Making the gulf nothing larger then what's found in a tea cup.
 
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Maybe you never pushed it? I, for example, test how stable the gaming is by minimising the game, running some music app in the background, and see if the framerate is still there as previously.
Not to mention streaming, etc things, other processes/jobs in the background.
Now your simply moving away from the original discussion by adding extra variables into the mix to try and prove a point. The same logic of course applies to a sixteen core cpu. Add enough extra background processes and it will struggle in gaming.
 
Maybe you never pushed it? I, for example, test how stable the gaming is by minimising the game, running some music app in the background, and see if the framerate is still there as previously.
Not to mention streaming, etc things, other processes/jobs in the background.

That's nowhere the near same thing as 'struggling in gaming' isn't not even gaming. It's a nonsensical argument.
 
I close everything. Don’t need music or a browser. When I fire up a game I want to play a game, not do a million other things at the same time. If the game cannot keep my attention that I need to browse or watch a video etc while playing then that game is not worth my time.
 
I close everything. Don’t need music or a browser. When I fire up a game I want to play a game, not do a million other things at the same time. If the game cannot keep my attention that I need to browse or watch a video etc while playing then that game is not worth my time.
Depends what type of game. I often listen to music when playing games like Cities skylines or Planet Coaster.
 
I keep everything open, I'd have 372 chrome tabs open, spotify, word, steam, epic games, corsair link etc if I loaded a game now lol
 
I keep everything open, I'd have 372 chrome tabs open, spotify, word, steam, epic games, corsair link etc if I loaded a game now lol

I don't think I view even 5 sites, what are you looking at.
I don't have anything running in the background when gaming but I can see why others do like streaming apps etc.
 
I keep everything open, I'd have 372 chrome tabs open, spotify, word, steam, epic games, corsair link etc if I loaded a game now lol

I’m pretty sure windows will help you and temp close some of those programs :) I know your not being serious though but to many chrome tabs isn’t a bad thing just very ram intensive and word whilst in background uses very little Spotify is the worst of the lot.

But a lot of people would have steam uplay origin epic Corsair/Razer/Logitech open maybe even plex antiviruz onedrive then have Nvidia/amd stuff motherboard software like so suite or gamer first lan stuff it’s amazing what we do have running in the background on our pc’s it why I think reviewers benchmarks are next to useless for the average pc user as I can only speak for myself but I would imagine a lot of people are the same we don’t optimise our pc when we open a game we sit down click steam find game u want to play and click play forgetting the background software the 10 chrome tabs with some YouTube in at least one of them. Pc is called personal computer for a reason :)
 
Depends what type of game. I often listen to music when playing games like Cities skylines or Planet Coaster.
Does not feel immersive to me when I listen to my music when playing personally. But each to their own.

Playing music does not take much resources anyway. When you have dozens, or as some seem to have hundreds of tabs open plus other things then that’s different.
 
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