Jeffrey Epstein

They probably add the satan worshipping, eating babies stuff themselves to discredit claims about them being paedophiles. I mean a conspiracy about Hollywood/Washington elites being involved in paedeophile rings is believable but if you throw in stuff like sex orgies with reptilians the majority of people will just immediately laugh it off.

Jill Dando was allegedly going to blow the whistle on paedophiles at the BBC (who'd have believed that pre-Jimmy Saville?) and what do you know it she got killed and even more conveniently a local mentally handicapped bloke got wrongly thrown in jail as the fall guy, which again conveniently closed down the case. How deep do the rabbit holes go?
 
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They probably add the satan worshipping, eating babies stuff themselves to discredit claims about them being paedophiles. I mean a conspiracy about Hollywood/Washington elites being involved in paedeophile rings is believable but if you throw in stuff like sex orgies with reptilians the majority of people will just immediately laugh it off.

Jill Dando was allegedly going to blow the whistle on paedophiles at the BBC (who'd have believed that pre-Jimmy Saville?) and what do you know it she got killed and even more conveniently a local mentally handicapped bloke got wrongly thrown in jail as the fall guy, which again conveniently closed down the case. How deep do the rabbit holes go?

There is zero evidence for this. As for rabbit holes, as deep as your imagination wants them to go because when you go off on CT with no hard evidence to back them up they only exist in the imagination of those that believe them.

Are there paedophiles in Hollywood and Washington... of course there are. There are paedophiles everywhere, good chance are there might be one living on your street but this is pretty much pizza gate CT you are suggesting and that is nonsense. Given your posting in the now defunct Trump thread my guess is Hilary is in on it right :rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
Any organisation or group of people taken at random, pretty much no matter where you look will have "pedos" working for them currently if it's over a certain size, if you then add in a time frame of years or decades it's a dead cert they'll have employed some.

I always love the way that some people say "hollywood is full of them" then usually struggle to name any specific ones, or "the bbc is full of them" then mention a two or three high profile names out of literally thousands of people with similarly high profiles (and they ignore how many of them also worked outside of the BBC).
Hollywood has something half a million people involved in TV and film production, with thousands of very well known actors etc, so the odds are, yeah there are going to be people of all sorts in hollywood, the BBC has something like 30k permanent and probably several times that in part time and contract staff who are only employed on specific productions or at supplying companies).

But like a lot of the CT's people concentrate on "ooh I know a few names in an industry had this happen to them" and conflate that to mean there is some massive thing going on generally in that industry, a little like the curse of the Poltergiest film where people go "so many of them died within a few years" and you look into it and go, "yup, one was in her late 60's and poor health before working on it, one had cancer when they were hired, another had a car accident..." as the statistics show that it was entirely normal, it's just that they were associated with that one thing (it's like claiming that working for Pixar increases your fertility because a large crew of mainly younger people have a bunch of babies over the space of a 3-5 year production).
 
Any organisation or group of people taken at random, pretty much no matter where you look will have "pedos" working for them currently if it's over a certain size, if you then add in a time frame of years or decades it's a dead cert they'll have employed some.

I always love the way that some people say "hollywood is full of them" then usually struggle to name any specific ones, or "the bbc is full of them" then mention a two or three high profile names out of literally thousands of people with similarly high profiles (and they ignore how many of them also worked outside of the BBC).
Hollywood has something half a million people involved in TV and film production, with thousands of very well known actors etc, so the odds are, yeah there are going to be people of all sorts in hollywood, the BBC has something like 30k permanent and probably several times that in part time and contract staff who are only employed on specific productions or at supplying companies).

But like a lot of the CT's people concentrate on "ooh I know a few names in an industry had this happen to them" and conflate that to mean there is some massive thing going on generally in that industry, a little like the curse of the Poltergiest film where people go "so many of them died within a few years" and you look into it and go, "yup, one was in her late 60's and poor health before working on it, one had cancer when they were hired, another had a car accident..." as the statistics show that it was entirely normal, it's just that they were associated with that one thing (it's like claiming that working for Pixar increases your fertility because a large crew of mainly younger people have a bunch of babies over the space of a 3-5 year production).

Indeed, stats show that 1 in every 200 men are pedos in the Uk so chances are every one of us on these forums know at least 2 or 3. Some might even be family. Guaranteed we all work with at least one pedo if you work in a large place.

There will be several on these forums as I type.
 
Same, nothing especially incriminating. Just Maxwell dodging questions and twisting answers to state everything was 'consensual'. What I do find odd is that investigators requested documents and images of known acquaintances, nothing out of the ordinary there, however Steven Hawking was named. I've seen it stated that he was involved with the fundraising Epstein did for MIT and the like, but still a little odd that Hawking was specifically named.
 
I don't understand the use of the term traffic. They keep saying trafficked, but from what I've heard most people were invited. Offering somebody a job is not trafficking them is it?
 
I don't understand the use of the term traffic. They keep saying trafficked, but from what I've heard most people were invited. Offering somebody a job is not trafficking them is it?
IIRC Assisting anyone below the legal age across state lines is classed as trafficking in the US, if the intent is for sexual purposes.

Given that Epstein seems to have been using job offers as either a way to get the girls to go where he wanted initially, or as a cover it seems likely that's why they're using the term.

Little different to some eastern european girl being told she'll have a job as a maid if she goes to X country, then finding she's being forced to work in a brothel.
 
Jill Dando was allegedly going to blow the whistle on paedophiles at the BBC (who'd have believed that pre-Jimmy Saville?) and what do you know it she got killed and even more conveniently a local mentally handicapped bloke got wrongly thrown in jail as the fall guy, which again conveniently closed down the case. How deep do the rabbit holes go?

Source?
 

There won't be any evidence obviously, if there was an innocent man with learning difficulties wouldn't have been falsely imprisoned for a crime he didn't commit and if he wasn't blamed so quickly there might have been a proper investigation.

A few weeks ago people were calling Epstein running a honey trap a conspiracy theory and today you have people like Bill Cinton being implicated by witnesses and being said to "owe him favours".
 
They probably add the satan worshipping, eating babies stuff themselves to discredit claims about them being paedophiles. I mean a conspiracy about Hollywood/Washington elites being involved in paedeophile rings is believable but if you throw in stuff like sex orgies with reptilians the majority of people will just immediately laugh it off.

Jill Dando was allegedly going to blow the whistle on paedophiles at the BBC (who'd have believed that pre-Jimmy Saville?) and what do you know it she got killed and even more conveniently a local mentally handicapped bloke got wrongly thrown in jail as the fall guy, which again conveniently closed down the case. How deep do the rabbit holes go?

Well you can't go much deeper than these names really.
 
It's not a big leap of the imagination that this stuff goes on, and that there is an even bigger background picture to this.

Ghislaine Maxwell father Robert stole a lot of pension money from British people, then it came out he was a triple agent and ended up 'disappearing' mysteriously on a boat.

This is a murky world that she has normalised.
 
Kevin, Ian and Ghislaine Maxwell are smeared in scandal, but the other 4 surviving siblings of Robert and Elizabeth Maxwell have kept a remarkably low profile and have rarely appeared in any media in recent times. The Maxwells had a child die of leukaemia at the age of three and another son who never recovered from a serious motor car accident. I think he died in a coma aged about 16. There's always been criticism of the well known backwards Spanish autopsy system when discussion of Robert Maxwell's death has appeared.

It appears there's something of a resurgence of interest in the Maxwell dynasty, and I am surprised many did not know Ghislaine was Robert's daughter, or that Robert was an orthodox Jew.
 
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