Soldato
In all honesty, religion in its entirety has held back humanity for hundreds of years in every part of the World, including the UK.
Joe Lycett - Qatar/Beckham debate
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In all honesty, religion in its entirety has held back humanity for hundreds of years in every part of the World, including the UK.
Soldato
What I am saying is that you can blame FIFA, looking for global hosts in all sorts of countries maybe. IF they are going to choose a theocracy or theocratic monarchy next time they will be in the same problem. Perhaps they should just stick to western democracies to avoid the health and safety issues and illiberal lawmaking.
Caporegime
Or maybe there would just be religious conflicts and massive amounts of death. Its not as simple as the religions of the world deciding "gay is OK" and everyone suddenly changing their minds. If you have a very extreme and strict religion with hundreds of millions of followers and you have deeply entrenched their belief system, trying to change that massively in a short time period would end horribly.
Soldato
I thought we already said that western democracies also have their own problems?What I am saying is that you can blame FIFA, looking for global hosts in all sorts of countries maybe. IF they are going to choose a theocracy or theocratic monarchy next time they will be in the same problem. Perhaps they should just stick to western democracies to avoid the health and safety issues and illiberal lawmaking.
Doesn’t it then became more of a western democracies cup rather than a World Cup?
I’m pretty sure you won’t see health and safety issues like this in Qatar.
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Soldato
Yes but why would anyone try to even change it apart from imperialism.
Soldato
Anyone considered how many people have died making Dubai or Egypt hotels that get flooded with British tourists? Its laughable when people pretend to be offended by stuff.
Soldato
I thought we already said that western democracies also have their own problems?
Doesn’t it then became more of a western democracies cup rather than a World Cup?
I’m pretty sure you won’t see health and safety issues like this in Qatar.
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I was referring to the alleged stadium and venue construction death toll rather than a brawl in a park.
As to your second point, yes it does. I am not suggesting it but it would reduce virtue signalling somewhat.
Soldato
Its bizarre isnt it. The idea of trying to change a country's religious views (which is a human right) is seemingly ok but anything said about being gay (which is also a human right) is abhorrent. You cant trump one human right with another no matter what you think of their opinions
Soldato
I also don't see many people kicking off about Formula 1 in Abu Dhabi on a track likely built by slave labour and following countless deaths.
People are so preachy when it suits them.
People are so preachy when it suits them.
Some of us F1 fans know what it costs and dont like that race let alone the track.
But, the FIA is run on dirty money which is why they race there, nothing the fans can do about it, especially when a large number of brits fly out to AD each year for it.
Caporegime
Because it fundamentally is the right thing to do. I don't personally think certain things are a matter of opinion. When there is so much wealth in the world people shouldn't be hungry and lacking shelter, people should be free to love who they want.
Religions are free to rail against whatever they like but they fundamentally won't stop the reality that gay people exist. Eventually every religion will accept that and embrace it but its going to take decades.
What Qatar and the rest of the Arab states have been doing these past decades could easily be described as a form of imperialism.
Soldato
Its not fundamentally the right thing to do, its only your opinion about what is the right thing to do.
Caporegime
Of course you can, if a religion gains enough traction to be considered a real religion, and part of it's doctrine is that murdering a person for any reason is fine, that does not cancel out the human right of not being murdered.
It's more about which rules directly impact people in ways that are hugely differing to most other religions. Kosher/Halal are good example of this, as they generally don't infringe the rights of other people, however animal rights activists will still have a go.
I clearly stated "One of the most evil" ONE OF
Caporegime
Explain why someone shouldn't be able to freely express their love for someone else regardless of race, gender or religion without using the fact that some people don't like it as a reason. Explain why it might being bad intrinsically.
There are some things which don't have any basis in logic or sensible thinking and this is one of them.
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It isnt the people it is the government that is the issue. Same as Israel. What a stupid argument.
Also in other news. Love seeing the unusual suspects supporting muslim views over LGBT. Priceless.
I bet a certain person is well happy they are banning rainbows.
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But in my example, the people are 90% behind the government on this issue. It's not even a muslim view.
The Kenyan PM sums it up, in a Democratic country.
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But in my example, the people are 90% behind the government on this issue. It's not even a muslim view.
The Kenyan PM sums it up, in a Democratic country.
President: Gay rights 'of no importance' in Kenya
In an interview with Christiane Amanpour, President Uhuru Kenyatta claims that homosexuality is not an issue of human rights, but rather of "our own base as ...
Do you think gay sex is wrong?
Soldato
no
If its between two consenting adults then it's not a problem for me.
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