John Terry... you rat!
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Have you got Gilly on ignore or something because to listen to him, he is a convicted drug cheat. When he really isn't. Banned for failing to attend a test - Yes, banned for failing a test or taking performance enhancing drugs - absolutely not.
Not having a go at you BaZ but it really boils my **** when people start throwing legal terms around when the really haven't got the foggiest of what they are on about. The Irony is he keeps piping on he Failed the test. HE DIDNT EVEN CHUFFIN TAKE IT !!!!!
As they say, ignorance truly is bliss.
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Wasn't it Rio's last chance though, hadn't he missed 2 other times to take the test in previous weeks, or am I thinking of someone else.
Either way, Rio's a terrible choice because, he's barely been fit, of all the players he's probably least likely to be fit for the world cup with a constantly recurring injury, you should never pick someone like that and be forced to change captain basically at the start of the world cup.
AS said Lampards been captain plenty of times, is almost always fit, never plays badly. You have to be stupid to think he doesn't play well for England, he simply plays as DM "most" of the time for England, because he has the discipline to do whats required. Barry, Carrick, Gerrard, none of them stay back and do whats required, so our best assist maker and playmaker takes it upon himself to do a job he's less good at(but better than the others by a margin) and defend rather than push forwards. Clearly from the way he plays people's opinion of his performances suffer, badly, but he's still happily doing whats required of him.
Gerrard on the other hand plays whatever position he wants, no matter where he's asked to play, as do a couple others. I'd take the responsible player who'll do what requires, whose always fit and is incredibly consistant, over any of the other choices available.
Either way, Rio's a terrible choice because, he's barely been fit, of all the players he's probably least likely to be fit for the world cup with a constantly recurring injury, you should never pick someone like that and be forced to change captain basically at the start of the world cup.
AS said Lampards been captain plenty of times, is almost always fit, never plays badly. You have to be stupid to think he doesn't play well for England, he simply plays as DM "most" of the time for England, because he has the discipline to do whats required. Barry, Carrick, Gerrard, none of them stay back and do whats required, so our best assist maker and playmaker takes it upon himself to do a job he's less good at(but better than the others by a margin) and defend rather than push forwards. Clearly from the way he plays people's opinion of his performances suffer, badly, but he's still happily doing whats required of him.
Gerrard on the other hand plays whatever position he wants, no matter where he's asked to play, as do a couple others. I'd take the responsible player who'll do what requires, whose always fit and is incredibly consistant, over any of the other choices available.
If ignorance is bliss you should be very happy
Rio's sample didn't come back negative on that day because he didn't provide it. Unless I am much mistaken failing to provide a sample on the day you are told to is equal to a failure. The repercussions cannot be less (and yes, whoever else fails to take or fails to pass the test should be treated in the same way) as players would duck tests, await the substances leaving their bodies, and simply turn up, citing forgetfulness.
If ignorance is bliss you should be very happy
Rio's sample didn't come back negative on that day because he didn't provide it. Unless I am much mistaken failing to provide a sample on the day you are told to is equal to a failure. The repercussions cannot be less (and yes, whoever else fails to take or fails to pass the test should be treated in the same way) as players would duck tests, await the substances leaving their bodies, and simply turn up, citing forgetfulness.
No it isn't a failure so you very much are mistaken. I think you need to visit the F.A. website and read up about it.
So you reckon Ferdinand awaited substances to leave his body before being in contact with the club over his 'forgetfulness'? He was photographed that afternoon shopping in Manchester. Hardly what I'd picture as trying to get rid of substances in his body. He made himself available literally hours later to be tested when he realised his mistake. The next day he was tested and passed, and it included a hair follicle test which would have showed anything dodgy in his system. Innocent of having any drugs in his system, guilty of missing the test.
You're just incredibly bitter about Ferdinand, I doubt you'd be so damning if it was Terry.
Bitter? I've nothing to be bitter about now, he's almost as bad as Wes Brown these days 
Can you direct me to the specific area on the website that states exactly how a missed test is to be treated?
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Can't find details of Regulation 46. Is it as mentioned above where Rio missed two previous tests as well?
Can you direct me to the specific area on the website that states exactly how a missed test is to be treated?
[edit]Found it:
Can't find details of Regulation 46. Is it as mentioned above where Rio missed two previous tests as well?
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Bitter? I've nothing to be bitter about now, he's almost as bad as Wes Brown these days
Can you direct me to the specific area on the website that states exactly how a missed test is to be treated?
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Can't find details of Regulation 46. Is it as mentioned above where Rio missed two previous tests as well?
I've never heard of Ferdinand missing two previous tests, you'd think that sort of thing would have been brought up in the actual case in 2003. Can you show me evidence of him missing these tests because it really is news to me?
And can you point me to where it's been deemed that Ferdinand has failed a drugs test in the regulations or what you're basing your opinion on?
1. I didn't say he missed two previous tests, I asked if he had. Christ.
2. He was charged with Failure or refusal to submit wasn't it? I thought that was the official charge brought against him.
The submission he gave was a reported 44 hours after it was due.
2. He was charged with Failure or refusal to submit wasn't it? I thought that was the official charge brought against him.
The submission he gave was a reported 44 hours after it was due.
1. Sorry I misread your question. And I'm not Christ.
2. Yeah he was charged with misconduct - for "failure or refusal to take a drugs test" and was found guilty as we all know. Not for failing a drugs test which is an entirely separate offence as you've implied in this thread.
He failed to provide a sample and he failed to pass the test that was scheduled.
He passed one 44 hours later. I'm no pharmacologist, but I imagine that would be the majority of time required for certain substances to leave your system.
He passed one 44 hours later. I'm no pharmacologist, but I imagine that would be the majority of time required for certain substances to leave your system.