Im more put off by it seemingly being a court case drama with parts filmed in Arkem, I wanted to keep the theme it ended on the end of the last one, with the Joker being a reflection of Gotham's break in society etc.
JOKER 2: Folie à Deux
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Yeah this is not a film for me. Very rare to like this court style.
I actually really like gaga both musically and in a few films. But I don't think the combo works here.
Saw the trailer last night in cinema.. Not for me.
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Wait. It's a musical? Yea I'm out.Reviews on this has not been kind. I was sceptical about a musical even more now.
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Musical courtroom drama with lady gaga? Hard pass from me.
Shame as I liked the first one a lot.
Shame as I liked the first one a lot.
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Hmmmmm, the things so many people immediately had concerns about (Gaga + Musical + need of a sequel?) all turn out to be the things that cause the biggest problems with the film - wHo CoUlD HaVe SeEn ThIs CoMiNg??? 
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musical.. for this film.. i'm out.. I enjoyed the first film.. and I quite like Gaga.. a star is born is better than the original for me.. and also quite liked her in the american horror stories stuff..
but just wrong genre for a musical.... I mean.. why not do a musical friday the 13th.. or shawshank.. lol....
but just wrong genre for a musical.... I mean.. why not do a musical friday the 13th.. or shawshank.. lol....
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Some more reviews form the usual wide variety of places all giving a mixed bunch of reviews -
The Guardian - 3/5 - "There’s a real spark when Joker and Harley meet-uncute in the joint. But the whole movie finally turns out to be oppressively, claustrophobically and repetitively becalmed in that oddly unreal Gotham-universe jail with Phoenix and Gaga kept apart for long periods"
www.theguardian.com
The BBC - 2/5 - "(Director) Phillips and his co-writer, Scott Silver, have decided to carry on with yet more of Fleck's backstory instead. It's a fascinating decision which bravely subverts audience expectations, but it does result in a film that is a dreary, underwhelming, unnecessary slog."
www.bbc.com
Deadline - "music lives inside Arthur waiting to get out, just as his alter ego bedecked in that clown makeup also was waiting to get out. In this movie, both happen — in a big way but very much in the fantasy world he has created"
deadline.com
The Hollywood Reporter - "even more than its predecessor, the sequel reduces the arch-villain to a hollowed-out product of childhood trauma and mental illness. Which means there’s little we didn’t learn last time."
www.hollywoodreporter.com
Variety - "Phillips has made a movie in which Arthur really is just poor Arthur; he does nothing wrong and isn’t going to threaten anyone’s moral sensibilities."
variety.com
The Times - 2/5 - "Phillips and co smashed back into the self-contained world, shook all the contents out on to the carpet and, against their own advice, had another go. The result? Messy, lifeless, derivative and exactly what you’d expect from a film that simply doesn’t want, or need, to exist."
www.thetimes.com
https://archive.ph/vmW4X (no paywall version)
The Guardian - 3/5 - "There’s a real spark when Joker and Harley meet-uncute in the joint. But the whole movie finally turns out to be oppressively, claustrophobically and repetitively becalmed in that oddly unreal Gotham-universe jail with Phoenix and Gaga kept apart for long periods"
Joker: Folie à Deux review – Joaquin Phoenix and Lady Gaga musical spirals out of tune
There’s a great supporting cast and a barnstorming first act but Todd Phillips’s much-hyped Gotham sequel proves claustrophobic and repetitive
www.theguardian.com
The BBC - 2/5 - "(Director) Phillips and his co-writer, Scott Silver, have decided to carry on with yet more of Fleck's backstory instead. It's a fascinating decision which bravely subverts audience expectations, but it does result in a film that is a dreary, underwhelming, unnecessary slog."
Joker: Folie à Deux review: 'A dreary, underwhelming, unnecessary slog'
Joaquin Phoenix returns as the infamous supervillain with Lady Gaga as his sidekick in a musical sequel that is "disappointing" and "not much fun".
www.bbc.com
Deadline - "music lives inside Arthur waiting to get out, just as his alter ego bedecked in that clown makeup also was waiting to get out. In this movie, both happen — in a big way but very much in the fantasy world he has created"
‘Joker: Folie À Deux’ Review: Joaquin Phoenix And Lady Gaga In Todd Phillips’ Brilliant Musical Return To A World Of Madness – Venice Film Festival
A review of 'Joker: Folie à Deux' with Joaquin Phoenix reprising his Oscar role, but musically in an offbeat love story with Lady Gaga as Harley Quinn.
deadline.com
The Hollywood Reporter - "even more than its predecessor, the sequel reduces the arch-villain to a hollowed-out product of childhood trauma and mental illness. Which means there’s little we didn’t learn last time."
‘Joker: Folie à Deux’ Review: Frustrating Sequel Is Most Electric When Joaquin Phoenix and Lady Gaga Sing, Dance and Romance
Todd Phillips follows his neo-noir psychodrama with another probe into the title character’s tormented mind, this time with splashy musical numbers.
www.hollywoodreporter.com
Variety - "Phillips has made a movie in which Arthur really is just poor Arthur; he does nothing wrong and isn’t going to threaten anyone’s moral sensibilities."
‘Joker: Folie à Deux’ Review: Joaquin Phoenix and Lady Gaga Star in a Cracked Jukebox Musical — but It Doesn’t Let Joker Be Joker Enough
"Joker 2" has an audacious concept, but the execution is less so in a movie that takes a step back from the danger of "Joker."
variety.com
The Times - 2/5 - "Phillips and co smashed back into the self-contained world, shook all the contents out on to the carpet and, against their own advice, had another go. The result? Messy, lifeless, derivative and exactly what you’d expect from a film that simply doesn’t want, or need, to exist."
Joker: Folie à Deux review — a messy, lifeless sequel with Lady Gaga
The director Todd Phillips said there would be no follow-up to the original, but he changed his mind and the result is a derivative musical
www.thetimes.com
https://archive.ph/vmW4X (no paywall version)
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Place bets
We need @Kyo to watch it for us.
haha i dont think i am brave enough to watch this one. Someone else will have to let us know how it is
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I don’t think it will do $1bn like last time. I’ll go $450m.Place bets
Interesting it seems like it’s genuinely opening on Friday rather than having previews on Wednesday and Thursday.
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I might go and see it, but I'm hearing it's really bad from people who really liked Jokerhaha i dont think i am brave enough to watch this one. Someone else will have to let us know how it is
"musical courtroom drama"
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