Just been told I am losing 5% of my salary...
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How is that silver spoon?
don't be daft
lets say for example he earns £25k
his on call is just £86 a week, which is around 67p an hour, how is that remotely reasonable?
Stop projecting
I mostly see you whining over petty ****.
And what have I been whining over? Examples please.
That could be 67p an hour for doing nothing. Seems nice enough to me. I'm on call 24/7/365 and get nothing extra. It's a responsibility of the role, like it is for many.
Additionally if it does come to him having to do something, he appears to get overtime. Don't see the catch myself!
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As per my previous point, you're just making wild assumptions again. Choosing a low salary, assuming on call means being on call for 130 hours??? You've clearly never been on a call before and it shows. Like I said you don't know anywhere near enough about OP's situation to be making such silly sweeping statements.
I've been on call for over 30 years (7 x 24 IT support, 1 in 4) and still do it so your assumptions are silly
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i'be been on call for over 30 years and still do it so your assumptions are silly
Then why are you posting so many silly assumptions? A lot of on calls are just for weekends, all you have to do is be near a laptop in case something goes wrong. Again, it will completely vary from role to role. Not sure why it is difficult to understand that 4.5% might be great easy money.
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So you want to continue to be paid £400 a month for work you don't actually do? And they dropped it to £200.
Seems fair to me.
You get paid your salary.
You get paid overtime for extra work.
You get paid £200 per month to be on call.
You used to be paid £400 but unless that is in your contract say bye to it.
Seems fair to me.
You get paid your salary.
You get paid overtime for extra work.
You get paid £200 per month to be on call.
You used to be paid £400 but unless that is in your contract say bye to it.
It is a bit on the low side IMO, I guess it depends how often he's likely to be called
it seems like the OP is earning about 50k (if the £200 loss is gross pay) and previously he was getting and extra £400 a month for 1 week in 4 but now the correct £200 (approx 1 week a month or rather slightly more - but for simplicity lets assume 1 week a month)
I guess one question is are weekends included? I mean if it is say Monday - Friday then that's 4 evenings/nights and so £50 per night across 4 nights in the month where he might need to be called up... that's not too bad tbh.. the older pay of £400 for 4 evenings/nights on call is certainly reasonable.
On the other hand if weekends are included then... nah, that's very tight of them - esepcially if we assume that it's not just the odd call at night then but rather daytime calls too as the office is closed... it's no longer 4 evenings/nights it's 7 evenings/nights and 2 days... for £200... unless its a very low chance of getting called each day and perfectly plausible that you can go the entire week without being called or perhaps only dealing with 1 or two things then... yeah I'd say that is low. Should be more like £500 for the weekend alone (even assuming only low to moderate chance of actually being called) given that you basically have to give up your entire weekend plans and make sure you stay in near a laptop... whereas if it is only 4 nights Mon-Friday then meh..
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Could you not hot-spot off a mobile and take laptop with you?
That way if you get a call you turn on the laptop and deal with it?
Surely that depends on your weekend plans. I mean I'm sure hotels have wifi etc.. too but it isn't really the point.
I'm not sure it's too practical to suddenly pull the trolley to one side and sit on a sofa in ikea for an hour or two with other shoppers all around you while you try to fix something, join a conference call.
Ditto to say pulling off a mountain bike trail or suddenly getting a laptop out during a tour of a national trust property etc..
Someone who gets it.
On-call basically means not leaving a ~15 min radius of somewhere you can fire up your laptop and potentially spend several hours fixing an issue, so no going to the cinema, restaurants, into the countryside, having a drink is out of the question etc. You may not be actually doing much, but even if you don't get a call, you're still giving up quite a bit of freedom to make yourself available
Ah those memories of being called out on Easter and having to go home to sit on a 2 hour call. Thankfully we no longer need to do on-call.
OP unfortunately you're going to have to suck this up. £200pm a fair whack, maybe start looking for a new job? I did many years ago and actually accepted the counter offer at my current job, I've been here 13 years now.
OP unfortunately you're going to have to suck this up. £200pm a fair whack, maybe start looking for a new job? I did many years ago and actually accepted the counter offer at my current job, I've been here 13 years now.
There are so many poor replies in this thread, bunch of illiterate judgy *****.
I used to get 15% base during the week, plus hourly overtime per call, 30% weekend and Bank Holidays. And this was highly active 24/7 on call for a banking Cards system.
You're going to have to find another supplement if that £200 is critical I'm afraid. How are your gardening skills?
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I preferred my old avatar.
I used to get 15% base during the week, plus hourly overtime per call, 30% weekend and Bank Holidays. And this was highly active 24/7 on call for a banking Cards system.
You're going to have to find another supplement if that £200 is critical I'm afraid. How are your gardening skills?
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I preferred my old avatar.
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There are so many poor replies in this thread, bunch of illiterate judgy *****.
I used to get 15% base during the week, plus hourly overtime per call, 30% weekend and Bank Holidays. And this was highly active 24/7 on call for a banking Cards system.
You're going to have to find another supplement if that £200 is critical I'm afraid. How are your gardening skills?
we get 25% of our hourly rate in week and 35% on weekends (fri 5pm to 9am Monday) and then OT when called
That's decent, big company? Mine were the standard Santander rates, think it was pretty much universal across all UK teams. To be fair, they were known to be stingy, but it was such a relaxed place to work plus full of Spanish and South American eye candy, although the Leicester and Liverpool bases had the call centres... oh my! What were we talking about?
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Obviously you cannot do certain things but if I was in ikea I'd just leave go to the car and do it from there.
Basically don't enter into something you cannot leave within 5 minutes.
So don't go mountain biking or swimming but going to the shops is fine.